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Posted on 05/12/2023 6:44:07 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | Ukraine goes in | Wagners should run or they will be trapped in Bakhmut
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Invasion Day 442 – Summary May 11 , 2023 Jerome News The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the last 48 hours, as of 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time).
https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-442-summary/
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“SCALES UP QUICKLY AND YOU ARE NEVER CERTAIN YOUR REPORTS ARE ACCURATE.”
Agree. This recent article addresses your point:
Ukraine ‘are already breaking through Russian lines in Bakhmut’ with the counteroffensive ‘going full steam ahead’: Wagner chief admits ‘the worst predicted scenario’ is coming true for Putin’s troops
By David Averre and Will Stewart
Published: 04:21 EDT, 12 May 2023 | Updated: 13:35 EDT, 12 May 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12075935/Ukraine-breaking-Russian-lines-Bakhmut-Wagner-chief-admits.html?ito=video_player_click
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• Yevgeny Prigozhin said Kyiv’s troops successfully attacked Russian positions
• Russia’s defence ministry denied the claims in a clipped statement this morning
• But Russian military bloggers corroborated the Wagner chief’s assessment
The chief of Russia’s Wagner mercenary group Yevgeny Prigozhin has admitted that Ukrainian forces have counter-attacked Russian positions around Bakhmut - as the warlord mocked Kremlin defence minister Sergei Shoigu.
‘The situation on the flanks is shaping up according to the worst predicted scenario,’ Prigozhin said, signalling fresh misery for Putin’s troops.
‘Those territories, which were taken with the blood and lives of our comrades-in-arms for many months, every day, by tens or hundreds of metres are now being thrown almost without a fight by those [Russian army soldiers] who are supposed to hold our flanks.’
Prigozhin then directly addressed the long-suffering Shoigu.
‘Given your super long experience, please can you come to Bakhmut?’ he asked sarcastically, poking fun at the defence minister’s civilian background in engineering.
President Volodymyr Zelensky sought to manage expectations around the pushback in Bakhmut, telling reporters the long-awaited Ukrainian counter-offensive was yet to begin in earnest and declaring: ‘We still need a bit more time.’
But Prigozhin retorted that Zelensky was being deceptive: ‘When Volodymyr Zelensky said [the counter-offensive] hasn’t started yet, he was economical with the truth.
‘It is going full steam ahead - Ukrainian units are attacking successfully.’
Ukraine’s deputy defence minister Hanna Maylar added later Friday: ‘The enemy has suffered great losses of manpower. Our defence forces advanced two kilometres (around one mile) near Bakhmut. We did not lose a single position in Bakhmut this week.’ Ukrainian official Anton Gerashchenko posted a video on social media which appeared to show Russian soldiers hastily retreating amid Ukrainian artillery fire
Moscow has since denied the reports of Ukrainian counter-offensives in Bakhmut and said the frontline is under control.
‘Statements circulated by individual Telegram channels about ‘’defence breakthroughs’’ that took place in different areas along the line of military contact do not correspond to reality,’ the Russian defence ministry said in a Telegram post.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov meanwhile told Russian news service TASS that the military operation in the east of Ukraine was ‘very difficult’ but ‘certain goals have been achieved’.
But a SERIES OF PRO-RUSSIAN MILITARY BLOGGERS HAVE CORROBORATED PRIGOZHIN’S ASSESSMENT OF THE BATTLEFIELD.
Pro-Kremlin Ukrainian blogger Anatoliy Shariy complained that Putin’s forces were retreating and deserting their posts rather than fighting to hold their positions.
He highlighted that units of the 9th motorised rifle regiment of the Russian army ‘escaped from the forest, abandoning the fortified area and reopening the road to Bakhmut for the Ukrainian Armed Forces’.
At Bogdanovka, the 9th motorised rifle regiment ‘ran away, abandoning a significant section of the front with an area of hundreds of metres’, he said.
‘Why do we need a large-scale counteroffensive, if during local clashes the servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation run away?’
Semen Pegov, a military blogger covering the conflict for the War Gonzo Telegram channel, said: ‘At the moment, our units are trying to push [Ukrainians] back - they have not yet managed to gain a foothold, the progress was relatively insignificant.
‘However, alarm bells ringing here... [Prigozhin] is right - we can assume that the counter-offensive has begun.’
The US-based Institute for the Study of War released a battlefield update this morning which seemed to echo the sentiments of Russian war bloggers.
‘Ukrainian forces continued to conduct successful but localized counter-attacks around Bakhmut on May 11, likely constraining Russian offensive efforts.
‘The deployment of low-quality Russian forces on the flanks around Bakhmut suggests that the Russian MoD has largely abandoned the aim of encircling a significant number of Ukrainian forces there,’ the Institute concluded.
Meanwhile, Russian war correspondent Anastasia Kashevarova said Putin’s troops were incurring unnecessary losses because they were failing to communicate properly with Wagner battalions, accusing them of petty squabbling even on the frontlines.
‘Wagner withdrew from that flank, because they had a breakthrough in another place, and the 72nd brigade did not know this. The 72nd had artillery there, but there were no assault troops. And the Ukrainians just went there.’
She posted: ‘I have unwound such a tangle of squabbles... everyone is offended with each other.
‘Wagner, they say, tried to contact the 72nd [Russian regular army] brigade, but they did not want to interact.
‘The 72nd has a ban from the defence ministry on working with [Wagner] - and Wagner are too proud.
‘[It’s hard] to wade through all this whining
Glad you enjoyed it. It’s good to break up the monotony on these Youkazoid threads and lighten things up a bit. Also good to be representing the opposition to blowing crazy money on a losing proposition for the US and for the taxpayers, otherwise known as We The People. Americans first. Youcraynians, 2,347th.
—”She posted: ‘I have unwound such a tangle of squabbles... everyone is offended with each other.
‘Wagner, they say, tried to contact the 72nd [Russian regular army] brigade, but they did not want to interact.
‘The 72nd has a ban from the defence ministry on working with [Wagner] - and Wagner are too proud.
‘[It’s hard] to wade through all this whining.’”
It is becoming clear that Russian leaders are sociopathic, Putin wants ethnic cleansing and his boyars follow without question.
Putin’s great tragedy, human cannon fodder injured men abandoned by their fellow “soldiers?”, not soldiers, not Grunts; not even men, lower than low.
Untrained, uncommitted, and unconnected to those around them; lost.
The injured and abandoned choose suicide, as a Grunt this pains me and I’m clearly a Ukraine supporter and they are/were Russians.
Civilization is just a thin veneer covering human depravity.
I recommend watching the entire video... short on time start at about 6min 30 sec this a safe version do NOT click through and watch the actual event...
Things that try men’s souls.
Update on the conflict in Ukraine for May 13, 2023:
- Russian media space panics over false claims of Ukraine’s offensive beginning;
- The trading of territory in Bakhmut is typical of urban combat operations and does not indicate a “momentum shift” until the vector sum of the fighting begins favoring Ukraine rather than Russian forces;
- Additional evidence has surfaced that Ukraine is using some of its best military hardware in and around Bakhmut including German-made self-propelled howitzers, indicating that Russian plans to draw in and destroy Ukraine’s best troops and equipment is working;
- Ahead of Ukraine’s offensive, both sides are conducting long-range strikes. For Russia it is about disrupting Ukraine’s offensive potential. For Ukraine it is about shaping the psychological and media landscape of the conflict;
- The Storm Shadow cruise missile is air-launched and for targets deep inside Russian territory to be under threat, Ukrainian warplanes must travel dangerously close ot the line of contact and expose themselves to Russian air defenses. The missiles themselves must circumvent Russian air defense systems and electronic warfare measures;
- The terrain mapping feature most likely will require intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the US-UK in order to make the missile’s use most effective;
- While Storm Shadow missiles and other long-range weapons Ukraine may have will inevitably make it through to their targets these are not capabilities Russia doesn’t already have and in greater abundance. If these are war-winning capabilities, Russia is going to win the war first;
The articles pretty much miss the point of the Russian losses of ground at Bakhmut
What has taken place is that Ukraine is reducing two salients extended in an attempt by the Russians to achieve their playbook double envelopment of the Bakhmut city proper. In so doing, the Russian commanders were not able to defend against assaults on those salients that in effect might cut off the attacking Russian troops from the main and very old battle line. For the Russians, retreat was the only option
What is interesting to the world viewing the battle on video is the pitiful, devastatingly pitiful, condition of the vaunted Russian military. The Russian attackers are soldiers with small arms.
When the Ukranian counter attack began, a single tank with some infantry support just moved forward to the Russian lines and killed them. then sone Ukranian infantry moved up and killed stragglers. The Russian troops had absolutely no defense against the Ukranian tank that moved extremely close to where they were before it killed them.
At present, it is not known if the Ukranians will be able to remove the saleints and then progress further beyond the old long established lines. Since there is nothing strategically valuable beyond Bakhmut, some believe there is no need to push farther in that location.
One result of the pitiful Russian army performance is economically devastating. No one wants to buy Russian arms. All the world can see they are no good.
Ooops! I made an error.
I said all the world. I forgot there are a host of Putin loving Freeper Russophiles that are incapable of believing they are so very badly wrong.
Give it up, Ivan. You expect Ukraine to stop fighting UNTIL it launches an offensive?
In your world, your foes MUST cease all operations until such time as they launch an action that only YOU can determine its intent.
I will continue not supporting Globalists intent on the destruction of the world.
“ Give it up, Ivan. You expect Ukraine to stop fighting UNTIL it launches an offensive?”
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Lighten up, Frances. My point was that Ukraine HAS launched this offensive while saying they need to delay their offensive to await MORE RESOURCES.
It’s a good GIBS-ME-DAT tactic.
Pope to aide..."We need a bigger bowl to pass for donations'...
Zelenski's wife peering over saying to herself..." That's not a big enough Bowl to fund my next shopping trip to Paris!
“I will continue not supporting Globalists intent on the destruction of the world.”
GREAT! Nor do I support!
Weird how some feel free to label or assign political agenda to others. I have never understood this ‘me vs them’ behavior?!?!
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“Ooops! I made an error.
I said all the world. I forgot there are a host of Putin loving Freeper Russophiles that are incapable of believing they are so very badly wrong.”
LOL! I understand!
It is incredulously unimaginable to read their concoction of inconceivable political theories.
Thank you for this source. I will follow up later after hospital visitations.
Again, thanks!
I Pray for Russia’s success.
GREAT! Nor do I support! Weird how some feel free to label or assign political agenda to others. I have never understood this ‘me vs them’ behavior?!?!
Nice try Reverand, but you knew I was referring to Zelenskyy and his benefactor and mentor, notorious oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, along with Klaus Schwab and all of the the other minions of the World Economic Forum.
“notorious oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, along with Klaus Schwab and all of the the other minions of the World Economic Forum.”
Absolutely not! I would not make such a projection that you would allude to such a flawed conspiracy statement.
Vlad back in 2008 or so when he was not invading other nations. When he was minding Russia's real business of being gas station to the world.
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