Posted on 03/22/2023 3:30:49 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
The conscripts and contract soldiers in Russia are not paid promised salaries, allowances and social benefits.
According to the calculations of the news outlet, since the beginning of March 2023, the salaries of the servicemen have been delayed or not paid at all in 52 regions of Russia and in occupied Crimea.
...According to Dmytro Loboyko, the Head of the Regional Studies Centre, people from the Russian hinterland associated "the hope of qualitatively changing their lives, but they had to face reality" with payment for participation in hostilities.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
The chart is updated daily and published on their twitter https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent
Pay was optional? What does that mean, and where do we find that?
This is how you get mutiny, apathy and purposeful neglect from the bottom up. Putin will find that out soon.
I don’t know if the same ‘non payment’ is going on in Ukraine or not.
—”gotta pay for those T55 upgrades somehow...”
They must have a full battalion of clerks searching ebay and used park monument dealers for parts.
No free shipping for that bunch.
This is how you get mutiny, apathy and purposeful neglect from the bottom up. Putin will find that out soon.
I don’t know if the same ‘non payment’ is going on in Ukraine or not.
Just before the fall of the Soviet Union, I think I remember hearing similar complaints coming from the Soviet Troops based in East Germany and other eastern European parts and they began abandoning their stations and headed back to the USSR. Not long after that I think I remembered seeing Soviet tanks in Red Square on the news.
I see you and dumb grunt have the same handicap
Best to bring nitroglycerin tablets...
For those lacking a spare 3 hours...
An abridged version, about 1/60 the time.
I’ll try to answer. I was an E5 in Vietnam era USAF.
I fixed aircraft B52, C5 C130 and other types that have been retired.
I went on to earn a Stem degree after my service.
Computer science, a degree most people can’t/won’t
earn was an engineer for twenty years.
I fail to understand why you need a 4 year degree to operate an aircraft like a B52, C5, or C130.
NCO’s “Getter done”
Elite assholes, officers, just prance around
get paid, and think their BA degrees in woman’s studies mean something.
—”They are not conscripting from Moscow and Petrograd, but from the rural ethnics. Imagine marching to the slaughter for a government that is starving your wife and kids and letting them freeze, a government that doesn’t speak your native language and treats you badly even in peacetime.”
For those not pur sang Russian, lower than shite.
It gets worse, the company commander confiscates most of the payroll, charging for everything.
Worse still the Company Commander rents out his troops for his personal profit.
Even worse still; sells them as male prostitutes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna17121117
I can’t say I have actual experience, but I suspect, at least during combat in a foreign country, it is routine to not receive pay on time just due to logistical and security issues. Like mail, it likely eventually catches up to the soldier, but if it comes down to delivering bucks or bullets, it would seem bullets take priority.
But I could be wrong.
“Even worse still; sells them as male prostitutes.”
That has to be BS. Why would any man submit to it? Gigolo, maybe, even if she is kind of dumpy and middle-aged, poon tang is poon tang.
“Pay was optional? What does that mean, and where do we find that?”
Y’all got to read the same enlistment contract I signed in 1973.
You can tell Russia is running out of money, they had to lay off half of the FR Putin fan club, the other half are posting twice as often to make it appear otherwise.
Also, they terminated all but ten of the Putin body doubles.
Final piece of evidence, Putin has to drive himself to Crimea, he can’t afford a Uber ride.
So, a none answer.
I don’t recall a contract saying that they could pay or not pay.
ROFLMAO
The Russian army and Wagner are known for homosexual rape and the army for selling soldiers for homosexual sex.
I do, I read the small print.
You are sure being slippery and evasive with your claim.
The Air Force did not have to pay you or anyone else while you were in?
—”Why would any man submit to it? “
Submit or die.
Just after returning from RVN, I was out with some school chums at a late-night diner.
And in walked one of the old group not seen in a few years... School in California, beaches, fun.
Until one night drank too much and was out of cash he began walking back to the dorm.
A car with the window down keys in the ignition, why walk.
He stole and crashed the car also possession!
About 1969, they sent him to jail.
He was a surfer kind of guy with long bleached hair, common at the time.
He said they beat the hell out of him and had to do anything he was told.
One of the group asked “ANYTHING?”, I was embarrassed and have a thick hide.
He looked down in silence and slightly nodded.
And I will tell you that he was damaged and forever screwed up.
IT HAPPENS.
no amazon prime that’s for sure...
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