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4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder
datahazard.substack ^ | March 8, 2023 | datahazard

Posted on 03/12/2023 8:22:50 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper

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To: Chickensoup
The numbers for all violent crime must be way higher

If there's a Richter Scale for black violent crime the needle has to be permanently stuck of the red zone.

21 posted on 03/12/2023 9:32:04 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (“A nation without a central bank is like a digestive tract without a tapeworm.” F. Saunders)
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To: Towed_Jumper

Too busy looking for white supremacists!
There’s only so much manpower available; you have to prioritize.


22 posted on 03/12/2023 9:32:08 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Towed_Jumper

Another thing they won’t tell you is that nearly ALL those murders are committed by democrats.

What would the Marxist progressives have to say if a law was passed that allowed only black women to get abortions? Yeah, thought so.


23 posted on 03/12/2023 9:35:39 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Towed_Jumper

“Too much paperwork for the police to arrest and process? Or, maybe too big a risk of getting shot at?”

Here’s my theory. The cops think that as long as the drugs and mayhem stay in the black community it’s not worth dealing with. To get a conviction they’d generally need blacks to testify against blacks and that won’t happen. Also, as a rule, blacks don’t vote. Putting a few in jail does not move the needle as far as the cops are concerned one way or the other. It’s the same reason that so many shootings happen in Chicago. They’re only affecting the black community and the black community will not ask for or accept any help in reducing violence. It’s just part of the way things are. I watched an interview with a black Chicago mother who had lost four of her five sons in drive-by shootings. She was angry, but it apparently never occurred to her to move. She was living in the same apartment complex as a host of black dealers. That’s the very definition of “I should get out of here.” Nope. Just anger with no logic about what she should do about the situation.


24 posted on 03/12/2023 9:38:35 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Towed_Jumper

Very interesting information, with much food for thought (even if the general picture is exactly what most Freepers assume).

Ramdom thoughts:
Statistics that show 4.5% of Black men will commit murder during their own lifetime, also show that 95.5% WILL NOT.

Treating every black guy as if they are a murderer is simultaneously a logical survival strategy, AND a cruel injustice against the non-murdering 95.5%. This creates an ethical dilemma, pitting self preservation against making choices based on racist assumptions. Based on the data, this is a much more pressing problem for the Black community than the White one.

Anyone who believes Black Lives Matter, ought to be focused on protecting black lives from murderers, by removing the murderers from society. Perversely, the BLM movement seeks to put black lives at greater risk by reducing police presence, treating normal legal standards as racist, and releasing dangerous criminals to prey on the public. The data makes it obvious that deaths at the hands of police are minimal compared to murders by non-police. Yet BLM focuses it’s propaganda and “protests” as if the opposite were the case. The “media” is complicit in a virtual holocaust of black lives by allowing this nonsense to stand.

This is nutty speculation, but I wonder whether incarcerating offenders has a straight-line effect, or if those who are not murdered because their potential murderers are incarcerated, are the exact sort most likely to commit murder themselves. (I.e., does the high rate of murder among the black male demographic tend to thin the pool of murderers, whereas innocent victims saved are a fairly minor portion.) I guess incarcerating enough over time would put a dent in the cycle.


25 posted on 03/12/2023 9:40:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s extortion.


26 posted on 03/12/2023 9:40:56 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Well, when it does not work, are they going to return the money?


27 posted on 03/12/2023 9:42:03 AM PDT by Karoo
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To: Karoo
Yes, they will all be good financial stewards of their windfall and invest it in a mix of high-growth and large-cap stocks just in case they need to return it. Most of all, they will frequently express thanks and appreciation to their benefactors.


28 posted on 03/12/2023 9:48:26 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: Towed_Jumper

In New Orleans, 1 in 14 black males will be murdered by 40, that is 7%. The converse, that roughly 7% will murder, is also true.

How many blacks there are living the life that readily leads to murder? A quarter? Half?


29 posted on 03/12/2023 9:49:54 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Chewbarkah
pitting self preservation against making choices based on racist assumptions.

Self preservation wins. The "Race Card" is overcharged and I no longer accept it.

30 posted on 03/12/2023 10:07:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Gen.Blather

Keeping them stoned is a form of control.


31 posted on 03/12/2023 10:13:03 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

And arm yourself, chances of needing it increase steadily.


32 posted on 03/12/2023 10:13:05 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: ought-six

Annnnnd Jan 6th was the dem version of the nazis Reichstag fire.......


33 posted on 03/12/2023 10:22:17 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: Chickensoup; Red Badger; SunkenCiv; LS; Liz; MHGinTN; Lazamataz; governsleastgovernsbest; rktman; ..

My IMMEDIATE question also: Will 4.5% percent of black males COMMIT murder in their lifetime?
Or (historically) will 4.5% of black males BE murdered to end their life?

Historically (and currently) how many black males born in US cities (born into that ghetto culture, growing up in Obama’s modern black welfare-socialist culture) be arrested into the juvenile or adult prison cultures?


34 posted on 03/12/2023 10:31:17 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When your life aspirations solely consist of 22”rims for your car, dope, ho’s, gold teef, and cash, your lifespan goes from the 70s to the 30s......kind of like Botswana without the disease, famine, and hunger.


35 posted on 03/12/2023 11:08:14 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: Towed_Jumper

Fix it? Make it much worse. It only adds to their sense of entitlement and persecution. It also empowers them.

Surely we are coming to the end.


36 posted on 03/12/2023 11:14:54 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Sequoyah101
"It only adds to their sense of entitlement and persecution."

I think it is even worse. People HATE the hand that feeds them. It would breed massive resentment at being "kept" and hatred for the people that "keep" them. There would be zero thanks, zero appreciation, zero acknowledgement of the sacrifice to pay them off. As you say, it would amp up their sense of entitlement and all we hear from here to eternity is "more, more, more, more...and more."

Rudyard Kipling expresses it well in "Dane-Geld"...

It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say:--
"We invaded you last night--we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation for a reach and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:--
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:--

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"


37 posted on 03/12/2023 11:25:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“The current push for ‘reparations’ is not going fix this.”

Not only it won’t fix it, it will make it much worse.

Reparation will be an admission that today’s blacks have been somehow wronged. This will give them more excuses to misbehave.


38 posted on 03/12/2023 11:30:25 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: Noumenon; Governor Dinwiddie

And George Wallace.


39 posted on 03/12/2023 11:31:47 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: Chewbarkah

It’s not that one would think all blacks are potential murderers. That is racist. For myself I have several black neighbors that I have no concerns about. I work with lots of black people and I don’t suspect a single one of them of murder.

It is a concern that the prevalent black culture might be toned down a bit. Rap music, dark tinted windows, hoodies with the hoods up, flash mobs, those kinds of things. I suppose that’s racist too but still it is worth looking at.


40 posted on 03/12/2023 11:35:08 AM PDT by webheart
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