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American man killed in Mexico border kidnap was jailed in 2015 for 'drugs manufacture' - while the other three ALL have lengthy drug raps
Daily Mail ^ | 03/08/23 | Greg Woodfield

Posted on 03/09/2023 8:58:12 AM PST by Ge0ffrey

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To: Ge0ffrey
Well, I'm shocked.
21 posted on 03/09/2023 9:20:49 AM PST by null and void (Soros funded judges and district attorneys have Detention Deficit Disorder)
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To: Gen.Blather

makes you wonder why 4 people from the carolinas went across the border so that one of them could get a ‘tummy tuck’, and that it was probably just their excuse or cover.

I mean, who actually thinks it’s a good idea, or worth it, to drive over a thousand miles and over a border to a place where the reputation for medical care is that you are more likely to lose a kidney than to get a quality procedure? Fishy


22 posted on 03/09/2023 9:23:41 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
They were probably having zipper pouches installed so they could mule drugs better.

They do that?

I want one for concealed carry!

23 posted on 03/09/2023 9:23:44 AM PST by null and void (Soros funded judges and district attorneys have Detention Deficit Disorder)
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To: traditional2

SPJNK.


24 posted on 03/09/2023 9:24:45 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Knew it.


25 posted on 03/09/2023 9:25:03 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Gen.Blather

It’s very sad that they get the kids involved in these things, but so many are too selfish to think about them.


26 posted on 03/09/2023 9:26:49 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: qwerty1234

Did anyone trust the FBI after their cross dressing director ran things?


27 posted on 03/09/2023 9:27:25 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: Ge0ffrey
They watched "Breaking Bad" too many times and thought, "We're just going to work with the guys at the top and cut out the middlemen, and we're savvy and clever enough to pull it off."

They thought wrong.

28 posted on 03/09/2023 9:33:45 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. The real conservative.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

3 men with criminal records, including drug dealing, driving 1,500 miles to escort a woman to Matamoros for a tummy tuck doesn’t sound legit to you?


29 posted on 03/09/2023 9:33:54 AM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: llevrok

It is truly disgusting. I scanned several links last night, and USA media was repeating the LIE that USA authorities found “no notable criminal history”.

And now there’s more: a female fifth passenger did not cross the border with them. She reported to police in the US when her friends did not return, said that they use drugs:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11840093/Five-American-friends-seen-happily-singing-tragic-Mexico-kidnapping.html

And MORE: Mexico authorities now say incident may be about drug trafficking (Thank you Mexico for being more honest than USA authirities)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11840579/Mexico-authorities-probing-attack-against-four-Americans-rap-sheets-kidnapped-cartel.html

PS another board I visit to discuss crime has taken down the whole thread on this story. They are annoyingly liberal leaning, mostly white females, and the unfolding story simply isn’t jiving with their preferred narrative of black victimhood/sainthood.

Why do we have to go to Daily Mail to get USA news??!!


30 posted on 03/09/2023 9:35:48 AM PST by guthunde47
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To: Ge0ffrey

I am not surprised.

I posted an article on this yesterday, but I made a special point not to speculate about drug trafficking since all four Americans were Black.

One new question - if all four Americans had drug related USA rap sheets, how did they get by USA and Mexican border checks in their van?

Sorry about the two dead guys. Very bad luck.

But, Central American gangs are the most violent gangs in the entire world. Bringing cash or the promise of cash onto their territory was a huge risk.


31 posted on 03/09/2023 9:38:25 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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To: Bulwyf

“It’s very sad that they get the kids involved in these things,...”

The way arrests of parents used to be made in Florida was, every Friday all the Sheriffs sent out deputies with an arrest list. When a parent was arrested, they’d sit them down with a telephone and the arrestee would call friends or family until they had someone to take care of the kids. Now, they have the Department of Children and Families. Unfortunately, from what I’ve gleaned off coworkers who had family arrested, the kids are much more likely to be abused or beaten by the other kids at someone’s home. As for committing crimes with kids in the car or house, it is now and has always been common. The kids are viewed as annoying furniture.


32 posted on 03/09/2023 9:39:48 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Ge0ffrey

I am shocked!!/s


33 posted on 03/09/2023 9:41:44 AM PST by ronniesgal (friends don't let friends be Kardashians)
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To: Gen.Blather

Cops also used to carry a 38 and a shotgun in the car. Now it’s body armour, combat clothing and a fully auto 556 or 762 in the car. We are a long ways from caring police work of the past.


34 posted on 03/09/2023 9:45:07 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: Ge0ffrey

My theory is this.
Drug mules needed a woman with a plausible excuse to cross the border. That excuse was the tummy tuck. I am also willing to bet that she was actually scheduled for the procedure. She has the procedure, while the other two or three obtain the drugs. Go back to the border, and she has a doctors excuse for why they were in Mexico in hand.
If you really wanted a cheap plastic surgery done in Mexico, fly to Mexico City ( which would have the more talented surgeons) with your girlfriend. Why in the world would you spend more money ( via gas costs) ,and recover post op in a car driving hundreds of miles, versus just coming back on a three or so hour plane flight.
I bet you they were recruited by someone in a cartel, and the opposing cartel got wind that they were crossing the border. Hence, the shootout .


35 posted on 03/09/2023 9:46:47 AM PST by kaila
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To: Ge0ffrey

play with fire, you will get burned.


36 posted on 03/09/2023 9:54:13 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: ETCM
These are all small time crimes that don’t get you abducted and murdered by the cartel.

My thought exactly. You don't go from selling crack on the street corner suddenly to a wholesaler.

37 posted on 03/09/2023 9:54:17 AM PST by 03A3 (If we can defund the police, we sure as hell can defund the FBI)
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To: Bulwyf

The first report about them that I read said they were in Mexico for plastic surgery (tummy?) which I found hard to believe.


38 posted on 03/09/2023 9:54:49 AM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Not a surprise


39 posted on 03/09/2023 9:55:45 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: Ge0ffrey

They were probably trying to buy drugs wholesale for resale and cut out middle man. Middle man took umbrage.


40 posted on 03/09/2023 9:55:52 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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