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AVI LOEB AND THE DOD’S CHIEF UAP INVESTIGATOR SEAN KIRKPATRICK SAY SOLVING AERIAL MYSTERIES REQUIRES KNOWN PHYSICS
thedebrief.org ^ | MICAH HANKS

Posted on 03/09/2023 8:07:07 AM PST by BenLurkin

Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) appearing to exhibit “highly maneuverable” capabilities should produce luminosity and other observable features, including radio frequency signatures, according to calculations presented in a new study that calls for the better application of known physics in efforts to evaluate the phenomena.

The paper was co-authored by Avi Loeb, Harvard University astronomer and head of the Galileo Project, and Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the office currently leading the Pentagon’s efforts to study unidentified objects detected in U.S. airspace.

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“We have to respect the laws of physics as we know them,” Loeb told The Debrief. “We can’t just say forget about it, whatever my imagination allows me is possible. That’s not a valid approach.”

“The burden of proof is on you,” Loeb says. You can’t just say it’s new physics because [you] have incomplete data.”

“You have to demonstrate that this object is moving in ways that we cannot explain using known physics. And then you might be able to consider new physics.”

Loeb says that in their recent paper, he and Dr. Kirpatrick worked to establish characteristics that would be associated with highly maneuverable instances of UAP based on known physics.

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Loeb and Kirkpatrick argue that calculations resulting in objects exceeding transonic and supersonic ranges should be checked against the known physics of phenomena that include ionization, which dictates that luminosity would be present around objects moving at such speeds through Earth’s atmosphere. Similar reliance on the known physics of temperature, sound (i.e. sonic booms produced by fast-moving objects), radar reflectivity, and other phenomena should be given equal consideration, all of which, the authors say, “can more effectively and accurately bound the velocity, and hence drive the range calculation.”

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TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aviloeb; galileoproject; harvard; seankirkpatrick; uap
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1 posted on 03/09/2023 8:07:07 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

“We have to respect the laws of physics as we know them,”................

As WE KNOW THEM is the problem...................


2 posted on 03/09/2023 8:08:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BenLurkin

At some point one hand is going to talk to the other.

Heavy sigh.

NDAs...


3 posted on 03/09/2023 8:12:43 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Red Badger
There is precedent. A whole new, heretofore unknown, and incredibly useful math opened up with this little statement...


4 posted on 03/09/2023 8:15:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
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5 posted on 03/09/2023 8:17:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
... imaginary numbers ... imaginary THIS, imaginary THAT, pretty soon the whole issue is resolved!
7 posted on 03/09/2023 8:23:07 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Ken522; ProtectOurFreedom; BenLurkin

8 posted on 03/09/2023 8:27:14 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BenLurkin

“Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick”

It is often said that in this modern age we do not have a lot of heroes.

This is the guy who has the potential to be one.

All he needs is a strong dose of courage.


9 posted on 03/09/2023 8:29:36 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: BenLurkin

‘You can’t just say it’s new physics because [you] have incomplete data.’

Yes, essentially they are making a supernatural argument without admitting that is what they are doing. In order to claim something is attributable to a new physical law or phenomena, you would have to actually propose what that law or phenomena is, explain its mechanism, write the equations that describe it, and propose some experiments that might either verify it or rule it out. Otherwise, you might as well say it’s fairy dust.


10 posted on 03/09/2023 8:31:47 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

You, what?


11 posted on 03/09/2023 8:35:06 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Lowercase ‘i’ is the mathematical representation for an ‘imaginary number’..................


12 posted on 03/09/2023 8:36:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Well, how do you like that? You learn something new every day. (chuckle)


13 posted on 03/09/2023 8:39:46 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: RoosterRedux
"The burden of proof is on you," Loeb says. You can't just say it's new physics because [you] have incomplete data."
Y'know how he knows your data is incomplete? Because HE can't make the physics work.

Aristotle (384–322 BC) attributed ALL meteorite falls to A) the wind, B) stupid observers, C) hoax. His lock on permitted data continued until about 230 years ago. Sound familiar? Hey, at least he got his name in the papers.

14 posted on 03/09/2023 10:11:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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15 posted on 03/09/2023 10:17:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin
the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

The truth is out there.

16 posted on 03/09/2023 10:21:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: BenLurkin

90 degree right angle turns at 1000 mph is no problem for modern physics.


17 posted on 03/09/2023 10:31:26 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (nyc is not there. )
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To: SunkenCiv
Avi has a history of using the old "It's impossible...because it's not possible" circular reasoning fallacy.

You may recall when scientists at Kyiv's Main Astronomical Observatory (MAO) spotted what they thought were UFOs over Ukraine. Avi was adamant that it was artillary without even looking at the evidence. His reason: It's impossible for a craft to fly at such speeds without a heat signature.

Obviously Avi forgot about the tic-tacs seen by Cmdr David Fravor and the crews of the USS Nimitz and Princeton.

Avi basically insulted Kyiv's Main Astronomical Observatory before a peer review of his conclusions.

Twitter noticed and teased Avi mercilously. Guess he still hasn't learned his lesson.

As an aside, the reason the Galileo Project is looking for UFOs in space is because...that's what astronomers do. They look into outer space.

It never occurred to Avi that maybe that's not where the UFOs are.

I'm glad Avi's not a plumber. If he were, he would be probably looking for UFOs in toilets.;-)

18 posted on 03/09/2023 11:02:02 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: BenLurkin

We have to respect the laws of physics as we know them,” Loeb told The Debrief. “We can’t just say forget about it, whatever my imagination allows me is possible. That’s not a valid approach.”
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That is what ‘scientist’ do all of the time. Make shit up as it pleases them and them look for proof. This gives us stuff like string theory, multi universes as in uni (?), String theory, and dark matter.


19 posted on 03/09/2023 11:09:06 AM PST by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW) )
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To: RoosterRedux

:^)


20 posted on 03/09/2023 11:09:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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