Posted on 02/27/2023 10:06:35 AM PST by BenLurkin
Years after the rollout of vaccine mandates that led to the firing of thousands of workers, the Lancet has reported that natural immunity is just as effective as two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer shots in preventing both reinfection and serious illness from COVID-19.
The findings, which were published in the February edition of the prestigious medical journal, were based on a review of 65 separate studies from 19 different countries.
“Although protection from reinfection from all variants wanes over time, our analysis of the available data suggests that the level of protection afforded by previous infection is at least as high, if not higher than that provided by two-dose vaccination using high-quality mRNA vaccines,”
According to the Lancet’s findings, protection against reinfection from the original strain of COVID, as well as the alpha and delta variants, stood at an average of 78.6% 40 weeks on from the initial infection. However, protection against reinfection by the omicron variant declined more rapidly and was estimated at 36.1% 40 weeks on.
Meanwhile, protection against severe disease (i.e. hospitalization or death) remained high across all variants, at more than 88% 40 weeks on from initial infection.
Only 16% of the US population has received the updated booster dose for COVID-19 vaccines. Meanwhile, just [?] 69% of the population has completed a primary series of vaccines.
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Well life goes on until you die be it good,bad or otherwise.
Make the best of it you can, strive to be better and enjoy
what you have as it basically isn’t going to change a lot.
JMO
There is indeed natural immunity and it has been around forever, because the viruses it addresses have also been around forever. Not this one.
Covid is a novel virus. It is new. It did not exist before 2019. There could be no natural immunity. It is why vaccine producers ALL OVER THE WORLD (It’s not about Pfizer and Moderna and JNJ; it’s also Sputnik V, India’s array, Sinovac China, everywhere went after vaccines) jumped to produce a vaccine — before there was even a single US death from the virus. Vaccine research was initiated the day China released the first gene sequencing information.
Every health ministry in the world KNEW what this virus was going to do. Millions of deaths. They KNEW this was going to happen because there was NO natural immunity. It was and is an non natural virus.
The health ministries were frankly terrified, and rightly so. They did what they had to do, and still only managed to hold the death count to single digit millions, so far.
I’m over 65. I’m entitled to an opinion on all this. If you’re not over 65 . . . .
As for definitions of vaccination, it’s not clear why this matters in reducing death count. You do what you can to elevate immune systems without sending infected people to sit among 85 yr olds and infect them (aka kill them). It makes NO sense to tell old people their best bet in survival is to get infected (and die). Clearly, the best choice is develop a vaccine doesn’t kill them and inject them. That’s what Russia did. That’s what China did. They actually care about their old people.
Imagine that.
SARS has been around forever, this is nothing but a lab made variant, intentionally made at that. The world experts knew day when when the saw it’s make up it was lab made and that fact was hidden, do some damn research before you spout opinions so utterly devoid of truth. You reek of propaganda for the very government that created this mess and hid that fact from the world.
As for how many died that is such a polluted statistic as to be useless. Add to that most were already literally one foot in the grave for comorbidities it can easily be shown the numbers were wildly inflated for a narrative. My wife experienced this first hand with the hospital literally doing that for anyone who passed away from anything, if they had covid if was always listed as the cause of death for the money for the government.
The worst thing anyone did was put anyone on a ventilator for this, that was a death sentence no matter what. Given you likely have no idea why that was so wrong you, yourself, should just shut up then, the whole point of having an opinion and being over 65 is garbage, your opinion is wrong. One does not have to be over 65 to have a valid opinion.
How many Nurses and Dr.s do you know personally? Likely none, then maybe you need to get informed!
Secondly, as for all the “caring health experts” they would not have packed all the covid patients with all the nursing home patients if half of what you said was true. So either they were incompetent, malicious or both!
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If there were rampant misattribution of deaths to Covid, strictly among the old, then the old Covid death count would differ hugely from the Excess Death totals for the old.
For The Old. The whole misattribution for money theory was shot down long ago via 1) Excess Death totals For The Old and 2) Other countries seeing the same effect, including EDs For The Old.
As for the one step from the grave thing, an 85 year old has a Life Expectancy of 6 years. Covid has lowered overall LE at birth to 74 for men, but if you reach 85, the norm is another 6 yrs. That’s not one step from the grave. That’s 6 years.
I’ll try to help you. Here:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Scroll WAYYYY down to a button that says Update Dashboard but do not click it yet. First, click the selection above it that says Weekly Number of Deaths By Age. Then click Update Dashboard. And scroll down just a few lines to the graphs defined by age, and year.
Note that the blue line is the new one and ignore the decline out to the end of it, because death counts arrive incrementally and it takes about 6-8 weeks to have good info.
Notice how it is STILL, for the 75+ and 85+ folks, above the pre 2019 multi year norms.
That’s Excess Deaths ALL CAUSES. The reality is that curve aligns with current Covid death counts, and has in previous years, too. If there had been rampant misattribution, those curves could not align.
Everyone has heard the story about financial incentives to declare Covid. The curves make clear that was rare, and more important, all the 75 year old single people who lived alone, and died one night of Covid, discovered by smell a few weeks later via police Wellness Check, (there were 1000s of these per state) did not get counted as a Covid death. They tried to tough it out at home and it killed them. They were listed as died by natural causes because never tested. These more than offset any overcounts.
Truth is, worldwide, the numbers are undercounted via this very scenario.
You have no clue what you post.
First you say other countries did better, now you say other countries are the same.
All you do is create word salads for posts, throw suppositions around, you do not understand, and hope something sticks.
The CDC has shown time and again they have lied, I literally explain how the numbers were exaggerated and give first hand account of someone who witnessed it and you then post the corrupt organizations data as it is some kind of proof?
Look up how many died of covid with numerous comorbidities, which is exactly the issue with the aged population you speak off. Look up how many deaths the flu caused during the same time for that group, you will find it went down, funny how that worked.
I am not saying people did not die of covid, I am saying they fudged the numbers HARD to create a narrative. It was never as serious as they reported.
Natural immunity is less effective that the vaxxine if you consider the lethal effects of the vaccine.
Early March 2020 here. Treated it with the prescribed megadose of D3 in the AM and was clear of it by evening.
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I just had a strange cough for a couple of days ...
BTW I had Hong Kong Flu in 1968 age 19 ...
In Feb 2020 I read that HKF was a SARS just like the Wu Hu Flu ...
I wondered then about natural immunization for the new one ...
The worst flu I ever had followed the only flu shot I ever got when I was inducted into the AF in 1966. I dodged the annual required flu shot for the rest of my 4 year enlistment.
Ask your personally known first hand source what percentage of the 65+ population has hypertension.
That was the #2 comorbidity.
The answer is 77%.
The point being when you have huge proportions of the elderly with a comorbidity, there is no point in adding the words.
“The vulnerable are the elderly with comorbidities” does not differ appreciably from “the vulnerable are the elderly” if nearly all elderly have them. The risk factor is old age. Period.
I will leave it to you to track down the equivalent Excess Deaths data from other countries, and see the identical reality of alignment with Covid death counts, as tabulated by some other health ministry.
I am curious, though. After you do this and find France and Israel’s Excess Deaths align with the Covid death curve, you of course refuse to accept the reality, so my curiosity is will you prepare your rebuttal before or after the data is clear.
I missed HKF. I was in Vietnam at the time.
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