Posted on 02/17/2023 12:58:33 AM PST by Libloather
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - Cities and counties could soon be on the hook to pay for electric vehicle charging stations if they mandate businesses to install them.
According to the U.S. Department of Energy, Missouri had more than 10,000 electric vehicles registered in 2021. As more people convert from gas to electric, the goal of some members in the General Assembly is to prevent local governments from requiring charging stations.
The House passed House Bill 184 Thursday with a vote of 105-36. The bill sponsored by Rep. Jim Murphy, a south St. Louis County Republican, would protect businesses as more electric vehicles hit the roadways.
“I don’t think it’s the government’s responsibility to be the marketing department for General Motors, Chrysler, or BMW,” Murphy said. “Unfortunately, my district sits right on Interstate 270 near the JB Bridge going over into Illinois, and we are a prime area for development, and it’s been stagnant because developers don’t want to spend this type of money.”
He said he filed the legislation after St. Louis County and City required businesses to install charging stations if they redo a parking lot, expand or develop a new building. According to the legislation St. Louis County Council passed, if business violates this law, they could be fined up to $500 or go to jail.
“Requiring businesses to spend money for electric charging stations is not what we’re about here in Missouri,” Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, R-Savannah, said. “We don’t know 15, even 5 years down the road if something better comes along, an increase in technology.”
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They buy it, they own it. Pay for the charging station, install it, set the price for usage, make some extra loot. Now all the gubmint has to do is guarantee the electricity won't be cut off. And if it is, the gubmint pays a hefty penalty. $500 every hour or go to jail is a good start. Just an idea.
Lets go to the scenario that you own a E-car and go out for burger at Jacky’s Burgers. You decide to charge your car while munching on the burger.
Somewhere in the hour at Jacky’s Burgers, during recharge....rain starts to fall, and some short occurs....tragically setting events into motion where your E-car catches on fire.
Who will you sue? Jacky’s Burgers? The local power company? The guy who installed the charger? The local city who failed to inspect the charger? Your E-car company?
Recharging at Jacky’s Burgers for six hours could get rather unhealthy. Better start with an order of jumbo fries and work yer way up the menu.
Not just unhealthy.
Time consuming.
We were on a road trip a while back. Stopped to eat at a restaurant that happened to have a charging station.
A few EVs were already there charging.
Forty minutes later hubby and I were leaving after enjoying a nice lunch and the same EVs were still there.
Now maybe their owners just really liked to linger over their meal, but I doubt it.
The mandate said businesses need 2% of their parking lots have to have chargers with wiring for another 10%. So that means parking lots with 50 spaces or more. I couldn’t find any more info on what type of chargers are required such as being free or ones managed by a charger network like Charge Point. The costs in various articles suggest the chargers would be nothing more than level 2. Batteries won’t get much of a charge during a 1 hour shopping trip.
This EV sh!t is getting out of control.
No one mandates or pays for my gas stations...damned if i want to provide electridiots juice.
Maybe there should be a special surcharge on each and every ev,,,the cost of one charger.
EVs are inferior to ICE vehicles. They’re heavier so the use more energy per mile. The batteries deteriorate slowly with time whether or not you use them, but faster if you do. If you charge them too much or not enough or too fast the battery deteriorates faster. They burn fossil fuel less efficiently than gas/diesel cars because of all of the power losses between the generating plant and the battery. They use power to keep the battery at the proper temperature in cold weather. Without the government’s massive interference in the marketplace not nearly as many people would choose them and the artificial “need” for charging stations would be minimal. And this just scratches the surface.
The GM EVs of the 80s were loved by power companies as a source of revenue, but reality caught up with them (because they just didn’t have the range and took too long to recharge - just like today) and they rightly faded away because the government wasn’t trying to cram them down everyone’s throats. Or maybe people have gotten significantly dumber over the last 35 years.
When is NASCAR going all EV? When that happens I will buy one.
I saw an electric NASCAR at a show on Motertrend+.
They are coming.
I don’t know how.
Change battery mid race?
The Taladaga 125?
Great move, Missouri. I’m wondering, since Amish is a big group (in the La Plata area), I wonder if LIBERALS have yet mandate for them to have an ELECTRIC HORSE & BUGGY! 🤓
This is a waste of money until quick charging batteries are available and are recyclable.
A friend owns a Tesla. He was meeting some guys for dinner and had to choose the restaurant based on proximity to a charger, not what kind of food they wanted.
What a sad existence
My son just bought a Tesla 3. He lives in SoCal and wants to come up and visit me in Western Nevada this weekend. It’s a 400 mile trip with much of it in cold and snowy mountain terrain. His Tesla gets around 220 miles per charge. There are 4 Supercharger stations between there and here. Hope they all work.
Yes, I can already see it getting out of control....and it would appear to be only just starting. One bit of possible good news: read on this site the other day that oil companies seem to be going back to looking toward recovering oil rather than counting on EVs for the future. A step in the right direction, I’d say. The EVs just are creating too many problems & there would seem to be many more to come. One is that what America doesn’t really need right now is more overpriced vehicles that are just not practical in so many ways. Even without these EVs, our electric grid is overwhelmed in many cases.
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