To: Jan_Sobieski
We better surrender to the neocons, apparently they control Russia’s military and forced them to invade Ukraine for a solid year. That’s power.
2 posted on
02/15/2023 2:51:24 PM PST by
Williams
(Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
To: Jan_Sobieski
The neocons didn't count on Russia's apparent boundless ability to demilitarize the Left West...
3 posted on
02/15/2023 2:54:09 PM PST by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Cheese.
I don’t care about Eastern Europe.
Putin started it. He’s screwing his over and in cahoots with Biden.
Don’t need your crap infighting nonsense.
4 posted on
02/15/2023 2:54:59 PM PST by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Frank Write, whoever the hell he is, wrote, in part (and you citing him): “...in addition, a heavily reinforced defensive line was built down the eastern flank of Ukraine..”.
So, Ukraine built a defensive line to attack Russia, and that is one of the reasons Russia was provoked into this war? It doesn’t make any sense. A dog barking loud enough would provoke Russia...
8 posted on
02/15/2023 3:00:27 PM PST by
exinnj
To: Jan_Sobieski
9 posted on
02/15/2023 3:04:25 PM PST by
McGruff
(Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Putin won’t allow perverts and globalists.
10 posted on
02/15/2023 3:05:26 PM PST by
stinkerpot65
(Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
To: Jan_Sobieski
“It is for these reasons that it is seeking a swift exit from Ukraine which pacifies the Russians. The United States has orchestrated a defeat for itself of an order of magnitude which eclipses the debacle of Afghanistan, having weakened its allies, exposed its military vulnerability, attacked a fellow NATO member and taken measures which have seriously degraded the European economy. It appears to have no plan other than to cut and run from the mess it will leave its friends in Europe, who will have to find their own way to deal with a renascent and victorious Russia. “
Yep
Best summary I’ve read in at least a week.
11 posted on
02/15/2023 3:06:44 PM PST by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Meat of the article.
*****
- Firstly, the U.S. decided to remove Yanukovich because he declined a neoliberal economic package from the West, and moved to accept an interest free loan from Russia instead. The U.S. then toppled his government and replaced it with one which immediately implemented punishing neoliberal “reforms.”
- Secondly, the U.S. and NATO then set about rebuilding the defeated Ukrainian army, training and funding it to become the biggest and best in Europe by 2022. In addition, a heavily reinforced defensive line was built down the eastern flank of Ukraine. This is known by some today as the Zelensky Line.
- Thirdly, the U.S. and its allies entered into negotiations with Russia over the Donbass whose conditions were never intended to be implemented. It is now admitted by Angela Merkel, former Ukrainian President Poroshenko and Volodymyr Zelensky himself that these agreements were undertaken to buy time for the rearmament of Ukraine.
- Fourthly, the plan as set out in this 2019 RAND Corporation paper was to engage Russia in a military conflict designed to result in stalemate. The US intended to entrap Russia in the kind of quagmire which had stymied its own adventures abroad. The goal here was not only the military humiliation of Russia, but was moreover an attempt to “bleed” Russia on the battlefield in an unwinnable campaign of Western-backed attrition.
- Fifthly, as RAND indicated, the use of economic sanctions to isolate and degrade the Russian economy was supposed to guarantee a domestic crisis in Russia, which would combine with the planned Russian military disaster to produce serious unrest.
- Sixth, the goal was ultimately to create the conditions for regime change in Russia. By “overextending and unbalancing” Russia in the military, economic and diplomatic spheres the U.S. could realistically hope to replace the Russian state with one of its own choosing, as it had done with Ukraine.
13 posted on
02/15/2023 3:11:52 PM PST by
Bratch
To: Jan_Sobieski
14 posted on
02/15/2023 3:19:58 PM PST by
Flavious_Maximus
(Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
To: Jan_Sobieski
This is the War that Obama, John McCain, and Linda Graham were trying to start before Trump was elected.
16 posted on
02/15/2023 3:26:34 PM PST by
indthkr
To: Jan_Sobieski
What a load of smelly hogwash.
17 posted on
02/15/2023 3:32:14 PM PST by
Timber Rattler
("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Neocons tricked Russia into invading!
22 posted on
02/15/2023 3:52:42 PM PST by
Uncle Miltie
("The News” is a fake narrative promulgated by the Deep State Uniparty to control you and enrich them)
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