Posted on 02/11/2023 8:33:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Even from the start of the mRNA vaccine rollout, a small number of physicians were sounding an alarm about the dangers of Operation Warp Speed and the safety protocols that the mRNA vaccine development bypassed. Near the end of year three of dealing with COVID-19, much more is known about the efficacy of the new mRNA vaccines and their safety profile. This post sums up the information and concerns that multiple physicians have offered, all leading to one conclusion: the vaccine program needs to be stopped due to both safety concerns and lack of efficacy.
As the experimental vaccines were rolled out in December 2020, Dr. Michael Yeadon and Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg petitioned the EMA (the EU’s medicine regulator) to stop trials of mRNA vaccines due to potential concerns about the accuracy of COVID-19 PCR testing (proven inaccurate now), infertility concerns (still to be investigated), polyethylene glycol toxicity (minor and severe allergic reactions seen), and antibody-dependent enhancement (still being researched).
In May 2021, Dr. Peter McCullough led 57 scientists in a call for the vaccine program to stop due to safety signals that had arisen in the first six months of mRNA vaccine use. Some of their concerns were incomplete knowledge about a range of side effects, patients getting informed consent, certain low-risk age groups not requiring vaccination, and questions about whether patients understood the significance of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies were relieved from liability.
In June 2021, Dr. Tess Laurie sent a letter to MHRA (UK health organization) asking that the mRNA vaccine program be stopped. She asserted that side effects accumulating in the UK Yellow Card system revealed that the mRNA vaccines were no longer safe for humans.
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Ok. Prove the other one is a doctor whom you support.
Well thank God you don’t make the rules. Surprised you support cancel culture. You are a libtard.
So you are privy to every private conversation I had and others had with her? You really want to roll the dice on that? You are the one who practices and dispenses advice without a license. I laugh because I have all communications among many that were guarded and private. The relentless nonsense of ivermectin clearly has killed many. You will answer for it someday by authorities far higher than those on earth.
Hydrochloride acid was effective. Wow. Might I suggest you try some of its effective.
…and you step forward again as exhibit A.
I sincerely tried to warn you about the path you were headed down in your posting style of condensation toward others and demeaning other professionals.
You thanked me.
Then you accelerated - careening off road and down a cliff
toward widespread disdain as a poster.
I’d still urge you to choose more wisely…but it remains your call… and it seems doubtful you can repair the self-inflicted damage to your reputation here.
Best.
It's easy to snipe when you're hiding behind an anonymous screen name instead of putting your own CV on display as these people have.
-PJ
It was transparently obvious when you were lying about meeting with a lawyer, and warning me that you hoped I had a large legal defense fund.
It’s just as obvious that you can’t lie your way out of the horrible medical advice you gave Terart. You’re trying, but no, there are no made up private conversations that can ‘fix’ the disastrous PUBLIC errors you made that expose your lack of medical judgement, and at the same time, hi-lighted your narcissism.
Re: 67 - You’re trying to rewrite history so it supports the narrative you are trying to push about ivermectin, and were trying to do that with your false claim about what the NIH wrote about ivermectin until you got busted.
I’ve reread the thread in question. gas_dr explicitly said for Terart to PM with questions she may have. You can’t change that history.
What this really comes down to is that you object medically to the comments gas_dr made. My “guess” is that if gas_dr had said to continue with ivermectin, massive quantities even, you would be fine with what he said.
There’s a group of posters that have pushed ivermectin as a wonder drug. It may end up being that regarding COVID-19. But when people resort to dishonesty time and time again to push the ivermectin narrative, it can lead some people to put undue weight on its ability to treat COVID-19.
Wonder drug or not...there is a core reality staring everyone in the face.
Ivermectin is a drug that has been proven safe over many years.
The COVID mRNA shots never went through any real testing. The population as a whole are the guinea pigs.
Ivermectin is an anti-viral. It is a proven therapeutic for a variety of parasites and viruses. Has it been proven against COVID? There’s a debate. It has been politically attacked, to deny any attempt at scientific evaluation.
The COVID mRNA shots do not operate as an anti-viral, nor as a vaccine, as a therapeutic, if it operates as a therapeutic, is isn’t AS effective as anectdotal evidence from Ivermectin...and that’s just the antectodal evidence.
These Doctors Pushed Masking, Covid Lockdowns on Twitter. Turns Out, They Don’t Exist
Please the posts where gas_dr pushed masking and covid lockdowns.
Otherwise, it's just jackassin'.
You’re going to whine about me jackassin’ a jackass?
That’s OK.
You do you.
Your opinion counts for nothing. She warned Terart off Ivermectin even though it would be safe and the alternative was no treatment at all. He advised Terart to find monoclonals and never advised a second course of action if she were turned down. Terart used her last strength to locate monocloals she couldn’t have. It never occurred to gas that Terart would be turned down. Crappy medical advice given to a desperate person. Gas has to wear that - it’s in black and white and your excuses mean nothing.
Good. Just documented another poster making claims they can’t back up.
Both docs that posted to that thread suggested several options to find monoclonals.
And it’s clear that MomMD was communicating in some form with the Terart family as her daughter passed along a message to MomMD, which MomMD relayed to the thread. So there was some communication going on with Terart. The extent of those conversations are obviously private.
What we do know and which has been posted publicly is that a group of FReepers have posted misleading and in some cases knowingly false information about ivermectin - including ivermectin use in Japan and also ivermectin use in clinical trials as noted by the NIH. That has led to from my perspective, a false sense of security when it comes to ivermectin and treated advanced COVID-19 earlier in the pandemic.
You’re not going to rewrite history. Both fake Doctors on FR gave bad medical advice, with the other one urging her to trust gas knowing nothing about him or his potential record of bad judgement.
In black and white, gas gave bad medical advice. Terart doesn’t get to choose again. Gas doesn’t get to rewrite history. We can all read that account and decide for ourselves.
There is no private information that contradicts or removes responsibility from those who gave bad medical advice.
Terart used a day 1 and day 3 protocol she found, having been betrayed by standard medical offices (her physician, the hospital). I don’t know where she got that information -it may have been prophylactic or other but I’ve not seen any treatment protocol with so little ivermectin. She did the best she could - she shouldn’t have to be her own doctor.
You claim she had a false sense of security. Her doctor and the hospital refused to give her any treatments - that’s your preference? Being refused all help by medical offices was superior to trying alternatives? Many on FR have given personal stories of success with Ivermectin and HCQ. I wish Terart would have taken more, but on FR, she was warned not to.
Stop trying to rewrite history. We have written record of those events and they speak for themselves.
I was speaking to an attitude that was fostered by the likes of posters who blatantly misrepresented ivermectin and what it could do. And that dishonest misrepresentation continues to this day - those most recent being you misrepresenting what the NIH wrote.
We'll find out as more and clinical trials and research comes out that can withstand rigor.
Stop trying to rewrite history. We have written record of those events and they speak for themselves.
Yes they do.
You take away responsible from T, who chose to take advice off the internet. Blaming someone for that is low. If somebody had the same reaction to taking your advice, would you own it? Some folks here give poor advice on the regular.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Let’s Pay Attention To The Experts Who Challenged The COVID Narrative: From the start, brave physicians and scientists have challenged the government’s COVID narrative—and they’ve been right., Fury wrote: |
| You claim she had a false sense of security I was speaking to an attitude that was fostered by the likes of posters who blatantly misrepresented ivermectin and what it could do. And that dishonest misrepresentation continues to this day - those most recent being you misrepresenting what the NIH wrote. We'll find out as more and clinical trials and research comes out that can withstand rigor.
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Who is 'we'? Because millions of people around the world used Ivermectin to treat Covid, it's been part of successful treatment protocols since 2021. One day, you liars will have to admit it works. I'm not holding my breath.
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