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1 posted on 02/09/2023 12:40:35 PM PST by MarMema
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"Waiting for Biden’s definition of victory in Ukraine …"

"… the check cleared. "

2 posted on 02/09/2023 12:44:26 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Biden’s definition of victory will either be....

1. Pushing US helicopters into some sea in Ukraine.
2. Leaving Billions of Dollars of good usable military armament for the Taliban. Er, I mean Russians.


3 posted on 02/09/2023 12:45:13 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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The US is engaging in an aggressive war against both Russia and Germany. We’re blowing up their energy infrastructure, sending armor and fighter jets — and anyone who thinks we don’t have boots on the ground in Ukraine is a fool.

And why? Ukraine doesn’t matter. It is not our job to “teach Russia a lesson” when they invade breakaway parts of the Russian Empire. It is not NATO’s job to attack Russia over issues that are wholly outside the scope of NATO’s charter.

The US media and US politicians are trying to be silent on the damage we have done to the German economy in our lust to hurt Russia, but I think Germany and the EU will not forget our treachery.


5 posted on 02/09/2023 12:47:43 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it’s the other way”)
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finite vs infinite games. The situation with Russia is not a win/lose game. It is an infinite game. See the link for an explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCB-0LWAmxw


6 posted on 02/09/2023 12:50:11 PM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Victory is when President Retard can’t possibly stuff any more dirty money in his pockets


7 posted on 02/09/2023 12:53:08 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Fewer white men and a check.


8 posted on 02/09/2023 1:00:07 PM PST by EEGator
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I guarantee you NO ONE in the deep-state halls of power has asked this question, or at least, demanded an answer.


9 posted on 02/09/2023 1:06:23 PM PST by PGR88 (, )
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11 posted on 02/09/2023 1:11:46 PM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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Biden’s definition of victory in Ukraine

When the banks safes can’t hold any more money.


12 posted on 02/09/2023 1:12:41 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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We often hear that the Ukraine war is analogous to the relentless Russian offensive against Nazi Germany leading to the occupation of Eastern Germany in 1945. The analogy implies that Russians win wars with massive numbers sustaining massive casualties but prevailing in the end through sheer bloody relentlessness.

Suppose there is another more apposite analogy, the Imperial German assault against the Western allies in the spring of 1918. Russia having surrendered, Germany was able to move a preponderant number of troops from the Eastern theater to the Western front and in a last desperate throw attempt and come close to defeat the English and French before the Americans could turn the balance.

By a brilliant adaptation the Germans found ways, without tanks, to penetrate the Allied trenches and range deep into Western France and Belgium. Rather than frontal assault the Germans used infiltration tactics of highly trained Sapper troops. If one adds tanks and airpower, the origins of revolutionary Nazi blitzkrieg in 1939 and 1940 can be detected.

But the German offensive in the West petered out, as Churchill predicted it would. The Germans in their desperation had shot their bolt and the allies could now, after four years of stalemated trench warfare, rollback the German lines. Will the Russian offensive in Ukraine resemble 1945 or the German offensive of 1918? Will the Russians have enough to penetrate deeply into Ukraine and force surrender or will they too exhaust themselves in the effort as did the Germans?


13 posted on 02/09/2023 1:26:40 PM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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