Posted on 02/08/2023 11:13:14 AM PST by SmokingJoe
“...Hersh is simply rehashing public statements and fictionalizes about what or was not said in secret meetings....”
Pretty much Hersh’s MO!
Hersh’s take sounds a lot more credible than pierrem15’s. Nuland threatened that if Russia invaded Ukraine, the USA would “end it. “Son of a bi***!” as Biden would say.
Total NONSENSE!
Are you getting paid to spew out this garbage?
That's only a small piece of the timeline.
From the article...
"Nord Stream 1 was dangerous enough, in the view of NATO and Washington, but Nord Stream 2, whose construction was completed in September of 2021, would, if approved by German regulators, double the amount of cheap gas that would be available to Germany and Western Europe. The second pipeline also would provide enough gas for more than 50 percent of Germany’s annual consumption. Tensions were constantly escalating between Russia and NATO, backed by the aggressive foreign policy of the Biden Administration.
Opposition to Nord Stream 2 flared on the eve of the Biden inauguration in January 2021, when Senate Republicans, led by Ted Cruz of Texas, repeatedly raised the political threat of cheap Russian natural gas during the confirmation hearing of Blinken as Secretary of State. By then a unified Senate had successfully passed a law that, as Cruz told Blinken, “halted [the pipeline] in its tracks.” There would be enormous political and economic pressure from the German government, then headed by Angela Merkel, to get the second pipeline online.
Would Biden stand up to the Germans? Blinken said yes, but added that he had not discussed the specifics of the incoming President’s views. “I know his strong conviction that this is a bad idea, the Nord Stream 2,” he said. “I know that he would have us use every persuasive tool that we have to convince our friends and partners, including Germany, not to move forward with it.”
A few months later, as the construction of the second pipeline neared completion, Biden blinked. That May, in a stunning turnaround, the administration waived sanctions against Nord Stream AG, with a State Department official conceding that trying to stop the pipeline through sanctions and diplomacy had “always been a long shot.” Behind the scenes, administration officials reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, by then facing a threat of Russian invasion, not to criticize the move.
There were immediate consequences. Senate Republicans, led by Cruz, announced an immediate blockade of all of Biden’s foreign policy nominees and delayed passage of the annual defense bill for months, deep into the fall. Politico later depicted Biden’s turnabout on the second Russian pipeline as “the one decision, arguably more than the chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan, that has imperiled Biden’s agenda.”
The administration was floundering, despite getting a reprieve on the crisis in mid-November, when Germany’s energy regulators suspended approval of the second Nord Stream pipeline. Natural gas prices surged 8% within days, amid growing fears in Germany and Europe that the pipeline suspension and the growing possibility of a war between Russia and Ukraine would lead to a very much unwanted cold winter. It was not clear to Washington just where Olaf Scholz, Germany’s newly appointed chancellor, stood. Months earlier, after the fall of Afghanistan, Scholtz had publicly endorsed French President Emmanuel Macron’s call for a more autonomous European foreign policy in a speech in Prague—clearly suggesting less reliance on Washington and its mercurial actions."
Except the pipeline delivering natural gas to Europe from Kazakhstan via Turkey got mashed.
Are you actually going to read the very detailed, well sourced article or you are going to spew out irrelevant garbage/Zellensky propaganda as usual?
You'd have to be smoking crack to think Norway would engage in an armed attack against one of its Nordic neighbors.
The accusation that Norway is "profiteering" from the pipeline blast is also staple of Russian propaganda.
The Russians blew up the pipelines only after it was clear no gas would be flowing through them and just after Germany began legal procedures to seize Gazprom's assets associated with the pipelines.
They also knew an ample number of America-hating morons, especially in Germany, but apparently many here on FR would eat up the conspiracy theory that the US was behind the blasts.
Thanks for sharing. That we did it was the only logical conclusion, as insane as it was. That adhominem, shoot-the- messenger style attacks are the method employed in dosputing the article is rerevealing in itself. It really amazes me how many supposedly thinking individuals have chosen to embrace the Neocon agenda without apparently even realizing it.
Yeah it’s crazy.
But they’re not conservatives.
The Navy Base in Panama City FL used to be known as the Underwater Mine Defense Lab. The base is still the center of a lot of underwater training and research. I think just about all Navy divers have passed through the base at one time or the other.
Norway helped attack the Russian pipeline. Nothing new there.
Norway has fought plenty of wars against Russia through history,
Why don't you be a good little boy and go back to Soros for your payment?
Norway always profits from high oil/gas prices.
Norway is the third biggest exporter of natural gas on the planet.
Its in Norway’s interest to bomb Russian pipelines.
Of course that would require Senators interested in finding out how true it is. And one would think something that would normally be considered an act of war would be serious enough to investigate.
And the very second you run up against 'classified', you have your answer.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Nord%20Stream%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
As much as I don't care for Hersh, he has more credibility than the usual suspects showing up on every Ukraine thread.
My concern is the allegation that we have a potential rogue agency that may have committed an act of war, against a fellow NATO country. It deserves looking into.
you have no proof at all the US or Norway was involved
so, put up or shut up
TERROR ATTACK on pipeline exposed and CONFIRMED, Putin's next move | Redacted w Clayton Morris
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Nord%20Stream%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Norway WAS involved.
Read the article.
you still got no proof
an article by an America-hating Commie is not proof
LOL
(NordStream is dead ... leave it buried)
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