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Conservatives are turning on the Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
FR ^ | Feb 7 | RF

Posted on 02/07/2023 5:07:02 AM PST by RandFan

Wow! I'm looking through twitter and I see a lot of conservatives calling out or turning on the Military Industrial Complex something I've not seen in a long time.

Anyone else seeing it?

It also looks like Republicans in the House are prepared to cut the defense budget and to clip the wings of the MIC!

This is glorious and long overdue...


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1 posted on 02/07/2023 5:07:02 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

It’s a great idea, but it will never happen. The Senate and WH will NEVER sign off on a cut for the MIC.


2 posted on 02/07/2023 5:09:30 AM PST by woweeitsme
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To: RandFan

It also looks like Republicans in the House are prepared to cut the defense budget and to clip the wings of the MIC!


Right and cut SS, Medicare, eliminate Ukraine aid - military and humanitarian, because America is all about the Benjamins.

That way every one of those “conservatives” will feel great and can go on TV to virtue signal, being able to point to the tens of thousands of jobs and skills they eliminated in the Defense Industry.

And lose the next elections in huge landslides.

Insert image of Emperor Xi rolling in the isle.


3 posted on 02/07/2023 5:15:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2022/05/03/george-soros-the-god-emperor-of-ukraine/
Intelligence sources tell CD Media that the following people and institutions are or were in the Soros cabal in Ukraine:

State Department, USAID, FBI, etc – George Kent, Marie Yovanovitch, Karen Greenway, Martha Boersh, Geoffrey Pyatt, Michael McFaul, William Taylor

World Bank: Sato Kahkomen

Ukrainian Officials: former President Petro Poroshenko, former Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Volodymyr Groisman, former Finance Minister Natalia Jaresco (US citizen), former Finance Minister Alexandr Danilyuk, Finance Minister Oksana Markarova, Yuriy Vitrenko (Naftogas and Ukroboronprom), Andrei Kobolev (Naftogas), Aivaras Abromacius (Minister of Economic Development and Ukrobornoprom), Alexei Gonocharuk (current prime minister), Timofiy Milovanov (Minister of Economic Development), Inna Sovsun, Yuriy Blashuk, Petr Chernyshov (Kyivstar), Vladislav Rsahkovan (IMF, NBU).

Oligarchs: Viktor Pinchuk allegedly owes more than $1 billion to George Soros funds or banks. Pinchuk controls people within the Ukrainian government and lobbies for legislation that supports the progressive agenda.

Investment Banking: Dragon Capital, Tomas Fiala

Strategic Consulting: George Massoud at McKinsy Kyiv, Lazard Managing Partner Boijdar Djelic (former Finance Minister in Yugoslavia)

Political Parties: Golos (Vyacheslav Vakarchuk, Julia Klimenko). Golos is co-sponsored by Dragon Capital and the Soros machine.


4 posted on 02/07/2023 5:16:33 AM PST by Haddit
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To: RandFan
The MIC is part of the Swamp. They are a permanent component. Members of Congress come and go. Even presidents come and go.

Who has more power?

As an aside, remember that time the Pentagon misplaced $2.3 trillion?

5 posted on 02/07/2023 5:17:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Soros took credit for the 2014 Ukraine civil war with the help of the CIA.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260665/soros-national-borders-are-enemy-matthew-vadum
Soros traffics in revolution and human misery. His devious business deals have brought the financial systems of the United Kingdom and Malaysia to their knees. Soros helped finance the Czech Republic’s 1989 “Velvet Revolution.” He acknowledged having orchestrated coups in Croatia, Georgia, Slovakia, and Yugoslavia. In the United States, he has financed the violent, politically destabilizing Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter movements.

“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States,”


6 posted on 02/07/2023 5:17:13 AM PST by Haddit
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NATO top fop Stoltenpoop is talking about keeping the proxy war going for five or six years and putting Western economies on a total war footing as in WW2, no consumer goods being produced whatsoever for at least that much time.

I'm 76 years old now and am running of people older than I am with whom to compare notes about how much fun that **** was, but I remember people being terribly poor for five or ten years after the war was over, as a sort of a normal thing. In my view, the people trying to perpetrate this garbage are barking mad...

7 posted on 02/07/2023 5:23:06 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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Of course. The Department of Defense does not defend anything but the profits of weapons manufacturers. Lloyd Austin is Secretary of Defense after having been on the Board of Directors of Raytheon - builder of missiles being used to kill people all over the world with whom America is NOT at war.

America has more than 400 generals and admirals in military leadership. That is FAR MORE than we ever had in World War II.

The U.S. military does nothing to stop the invading horde of millions of foreigners (from all over the world) across our southern border even though that is a primary responsibility of the military.

The military cannot recruit nearly enough volunteers, having turned into a bunch of woke sissies from top to bottom.

They are spending billions on the F-35 fighter jets which are much worse at EVERYTHING than any of their predecessors.

The military is paralyzed by inaction while China surveils our entire land-based ICBM missile system, for a week, with a spy balloon.

America’s weapons are too costly to produce in large quantities so the nation is not prepared for any major wars while having troops stationed in more than 100 countries across the globe.

America is defenseless while spending close to a trillion dollars per year SUPPOSEDLY on defense.

We do have maternity flight suits so there is that.

We have people serving in the military who cannot even decide what sex they are. How can a nation defend itself when its troops can’t decide whether they are male or female? These are not “warriors.” They are dingbats.

We could get the national debt under control if we could simply stop this out-of-control insanity taking place at the Pentagon.


8 posted on 02/07/2023 5:27:46 AM PST by Gnome1949
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Right and cut SS, Medicare, eliminate Ukraine aid - military and humanitarian, because America is all about the Benjamins...

So let's just keep printing trillions & trillions of dollars (and sending massive loads of it overseas), until the interest payments on the federal debt cause our entire economy to collapse. "Insert image of Emperor Xi rolling in the isle."

(\sarc ;^)

9 posted on 02/07/2023 5:30:47 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Gnome1949
Lloyd Austin is Secretary of Defense after having been on the Board of Directors of Raytheon - builder of missiles being used to kill people all over the world with whom America is NOT at war.

Whilst I am no fan of Lord Austin, I disagree with you here.

Recall that Solemani was killed by a missile. We were not at open war with Iran at the time.

Are you asserting that Solemani should still be alive?

10 posted on 02/07/2023 5:34:18 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: RandFan

To think there is no waste in the military is absurd. Never mind about social engineering of the soldiers.


12 posted on 02/07/2023 5:39:56 AM PST by bray (Order at TheRepublicofTexas.store)
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The best way for conservatives to attack the MIC is: 1) Don’t join it. (The military stopped being about just defending the country and more about pimping Leftism around the globe a long time ago.) 2) Badmouth all the war-mongering POS any and every chance you get. Let the political Left get saddled with the “imperialism” moniker from hence forth. and 3) Counsel others to either not join the military (or be very wary of joining). It’s pretty easy to do given how dysfunctional the leadership of it is.


13 posted on 02/07/2023 5:41:29 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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It’s about damn time.


14 posted on 02/07/2023 5:44:39 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Wait til they cut pensions/retiree benefits. Then you will hear howls around here.


15 posted on 02/07/2023 5:49:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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I’m guessing you’re unaware the 0bama admin had tasked ALL recruiters to ONLY recruit certain demographic types from 2009 to 2017.

their effort was to change the military from mostly conservative to ‘progressive’

similar to colleges only admitting certain demographics thereby insuring the future business leaders would be ‘progressive’... the military started the policy of riff’ing conservatives whenever possible (or just tossing them into meat grinder missions resulting in massive casualties). They would also only advance those who were ‘progressive enough’ to advance.

the result? just look to the head of the joint chiefs. he’d sooner communicate with communist china to reassure them he’d delay any actions the President may try to initiate.

and if you’re wondering, yes... that’s treason


16 posted on 02/07/2023 6:20:51 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Vermont Lt
Wait til they cut pensions/retiree benefits. Then you will hear howls around here.

Yeah, we know it's impossible for the federal government to save any money, anywhere, without cutting pensions and retiree benefits. And putting off any cuts at all just shows the world how strong we are! Let's borrow another $32 trillion!

(\sarc ;^)

17 posted on 02/07/2023 6:24:37 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: RandFan

The Deep State holds the fish, the Defense Contractor seals bark. MIC does not control the Pentagon / Alphabet Agencies. The Pentagon / Alphabet Agencies control MIC


18 posted on 02/07/2023 6:37:50 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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I’d love to see a very powerful US military capable of dealing with any foreign threat but based here and not spread all over the globe.


19 posted on 02/07/2023 6:39:53 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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Once I started reading about our NATO allies and maybe us giving Kiev a whole new Air Force of F-16’s and other fighter jets plus all the supporting equipment plus an integrated air defense system….I realized how deep runs the greed and rot to clean out existing weapons as an excuse to replace them with more and more and more new systems to US and allied forces

All under the tattered banner of defending democracy


20 posted on 02/07/2023 6:40:41 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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