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What is a suspected Chinese spy balloon doing above the US?
wishtv.com ^ | Posted: Feb 3, 2023 / 05:39 AM EST / Updated: Feb 3, 2023 / 05:39 AM EST | by: Brad Lendon, CNN

Posted on 02/03/2023 3:33:41 AM PST by V_TWIN

(CNN) — News that the Pentagon is monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon in the skies over the continental United States raises a series of questions — not least among them, what exactly it might be doing.

US officials have said the flight path of the balloon, first spotted over Montana on Thursday, could potentially take it over a “number of sensitive sites” and say they are taking steps to “protect against foreign intelligence collection.”

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To: ryderann

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81 posted on 02/03/2023 5:07:58 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("OSHA isn't a big fan of Darwin's Law." Mike Rowe.)
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To: V_TWIN

Testing air currents for delivery of bio-weapons? Release could be triggered by radio from orbiting satellite, I should think.


82 posted on 02/03/2023 5:08:02 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: jz638
What are they going to see? That our nuke sites which are already known and located and haven’t moved since Ike was president, still haven’t moved?

I don't care what they see.

I care about the cargo, and I care about THAT so much that I would have intercepted it over Alaska.

83 posted on 02/03/2023 5:08:17 AM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: All

Wonder if it is making real time soil engineering reports so China has a better idea which rare earth mineral deposits are so they can buy American property before Blackstone or Bill Gates.

Nevertheless if a spy balloon it needs to come down.


84 posted on 02/03/2023 5:12:09 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thank you, but I really doubt if it were so innocent as that.


85 posted on 02/03/2023 5:12:38 AM PST by ryderann
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To: xyz2

Must have cost a lot of Benjamin’s?


86 posted on 02/03/2023 5:13:01 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: gundog

“Testing air currents for delivery of bio-weapons?”

How do we know THIS isn’t one?


87 posted on 02/03/2023 5:14:50 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: FLNittany

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/07/08/stratospheric-balloons-will-rain-tiny-electronic-spies-from-the-sky/?sh=4c46e20c1985

Stratospheric Balloons Will Rain Tiny Electronic Spies From The Sky

High altitude balloons are cheap and have unlimited flight time, but have previously been limited to drifting with the wind. That has now changed. The stratosphere is so called because it is ‘stratified,’ divided into many different layers, with winds blowing in different directions at different altitudes. In principle, a stratospheric balloon can go in any desired direction simply by rising or falling to the right layer and riding the wind. Companies like Raven Aerostar have developed the technology, which Loon use to hover their balloon over one spot to provide service to a specific area.

“The balloons dance on the winds in small loops to remain where needed,” writes Loon project lead Astro Teller.

The challenge has been developing sensors, algorithms, and software to navigate the winds reliably and precisely. The military is already exploring applications for the balloons. U.S. Southern Command has been carrying out a series of test flights with World View’s Stratollite balloons. These are able to ride winds yet stay in a very tight area, keeping a permanent watch over a particular area of interest, unlike low-earth satellites, which only pass overhead at intervals.

“We think this has the potential to be a game-changer for us,” Admiral Kurt Tidd, commander of U.S. Southern Command, told New Scientist.

Stratospheric balloons may solve one of the U.S. military’s thorniest problems: gathering intelligence in ‘Anti-Access and Area Denial’ environments, places where the defenses are too dangerous for aircraft to approach.

The balloons are stealthy, and can fly at altitudes of 90,000 feet or more, putting them well above the reach of most surface-to-air missiles. They are also extremely hard to shoot down: there are no fuel tanks to puncture or engines to damage. Shrapnel that would destroy an aircraft simply leaves a few small holes in the balloon envelope. When a giant weather balloon drifted off course in 1998, Canadian CF-18 Hornet pilots riddled it with more than a thousand cannon shells and several rockets with no noticeable effect. British and America jets also failed to bring the stray balloon down and it only crashed after several days.

A new U.S. Army project aims to employ stratospheric balloons to drop a shower of electronic sensors into denied areas. Air-dropped sensors have been used since Project Igloo White covertly monitored traffic moving down the Ho Chi Minh trail during the Vietnam War. The modern versions are tiny electronic devices disguised as rocks with concealed solar cells that can keep sending back data for years.

The new project would leverage emerging Internet of Things technology for miniature low-cost sensors and communications. The aim is to monitor the ‘Cyber-Electromagnetic Environment,’ locating and tracking radio communications from Wi-Fi, cellphones, and military communication systems. This would provide data about the location of enemy units and specific vehicles. In particular, the sensors will identify and pinpoint targets for “long-range precision fires” by the Army’s new long-range missiles, which can hit targets several hundred miles away — if they know where to aim. Afterwards the sensors will provide battle damage assessment to determine what had been destroyed.

As well as various types of electromagnetic detector, the new devices may incorporate seismic sensors to detect passing vehicles. A future development may add sensors for chemical, biological, or nuclear monitoring.

Early projects required big ,expensive electronics; the 1960s Igloo White sensors each weighed twenty-five pounds and were the size of a fencepost. Modern ground sensors fit in your palm, and the new project wants then even smaller and cheaper, approaching the concept of ubiquitous ‘smart dust’ explored by DARPA.

The balloon-dropped sensors may exploit technology developed by the office of Naval Research’s CICADA project to seed an area with electronic spies. Each CICADA – ‘Close-in Covert Autonomous Disposable Aircraft’ – is a circuit board carrying sensors folded into an aerodynamic shape like a paper plane. CICADAs would be released from an aircraft at high altitude to glide down and deliver their payload to specific GPS coordinates on the ground. Several flight demonstrations have been carried out to date, including one dropping 32 CICADAs at once. Their glide ratio is better than 3:1, so dropped from 60,000 feet they could land forty miles away.

Stratospheric balloons have unlimited range, so they could drop sensors anywhere in the world. Like other unmanned craft, they are deniable, so even getting shot down is not necessarily a major problem. The U.S. did something similar in the 1950s with Project Genetrix, which floated ‘weather balloons’ with photographic gear to spy over the Soviet Union.

Balloon-dropped sensors could provide a window into all sorts of places which are currently inaccessible. However, the new balloon developments are a two-edged sword; as Loon’s new launch shows, this technology is not confined to the U.S. military. In 2017 Chinese researchers launched two drones from a stratospheric balloon. Soon everyone will need to watch out not just for eyes in the sky but spies from the sky.


88 posted on 02/03/2023 5:14:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: V_TWIN

There’s probably a good answer, but how do we know for sure it’s Chinese and not Russian or NORK?

Maybe it’s just a weather balloon - LOL!


89 posted on 02/03/2023 5:15:02 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: V_TWIN

COVID mister


90 posted on 02/03/2023 5:15:17 AM PST by databoss
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To: gundog

n korea maybe or iran …..


91 posted on 02/03/2023 5:16:58 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: Jonty30

80,000 ft is above the flight ceiling for normal aircraft.


92 posted on 02/03/2023 5:17:44 AM PST by databoss
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To: realcleanguy

Actually I’m hearing biden said shoot it down and the pentagon said NO........think about that for a minute.


93 posted on 02/03/2023 5:17:53 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

It’s a flying saucer, and our government (as always) is trying to cover up the truth about it. They have been calling UFOs “balloons” ever since Roswell.


94 posted on 02/03/2023 5:18:30 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: V_TWIN

The real question is, is Eric Swalwell dating it?


95 posted on 02/03/2023 5:19:06 AM PST by 762X51
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To: enumerated

And here comes another balloon.


96 posted on 02/03/2023 5:20:04 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Jonty30

Do A10s fly at 80,000 feet?


97 posted on 02/03/2023 5:20:32 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: 762X51

Or did Eric provide the methane for it?


98 posted on 02/03/2023 5:21:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Vermont Lt

Shoot some small holes in it and it will descend on its own.


99 posted on 02/03/2023 5:22:33 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: V_TWIN
We don’t. Biden and the CCP conniving to start a war?
100 posted on 02/03/2023 5:27:06 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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