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Meatless SNAP: Iowa bill would cut meat, poultry and more from food assistance program
The Gazette ^ | 1/21/23 | Erin Murphy

Posted on 01/23/2023 12:05:19 PM PST by EBH

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To: AZJeep

Yeah. This dog was spoiled, and that food had little appeal for it. My dog would have scarfed it down and spent an hour licking the bowl.


101 posted on 01/23/2023 6:10:09 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: EBH
I grew up in Mississippi which is pretty much the welfare capital of the universe. Any time my mother and I went to the grocery store we were pretty much the only ones in there that didn't pull out a food stamp book (they were actual coupons then) to pay for our food. I can't count the number of times that we unloaded our basket of generic cans and brown discounted out of date hamburger behind some welfare mama who had the belt piled high with the best cuts of ribeye which she proceeded to pay for with her multiple books of food stamps. Meanwhile mom was watching every penny, you do that when you actually have to pay for your own food.

This was in the late 70's/early 80's and so many food stamps were being handed out that even buying ribeyes most people couldn't spend the food stamps they were getting. The underground market for food stamps at the local country stores was 50 cents on the dollar. They'd sell $5 worth of beer/cigarettes/gas for $10 worth of food stamps. They only did it for customers they knew so they didn't get busted by the occasional government sting operation. People were happy to do it because most families got far more in food stamps than they could actually eat.

102 posted on 01/24/2023 1:10:32 AM PST by GaryCrow
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To: reformedliberal

However, Human food is not garbage tuna or garbage salmon. Pink or Humpie are mainly used for cat food as are all other types of tuna other than Albacore.

No green thumb here to grow anything indoors or out.


103 posted on 01/24/2023 3:46:14 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Agreed about the fish. I don’t buy the ones mentioned. I do have premium pole caught albacore in my pantry. I rarely buy fresh salmon or ahi....it isn’t what it used to be.

Growing indoors does not take a *green thumb*, IMO. It takes some observation and some attention and there is a learning curve. Outdoors is similar, but with more variables to contend with and a longer learning curve, plus events no one can foresee and which even blindside experienced gardeners.

It’s not even worth arguing about. The original discussion, as I recall, was about the SNAP recipients using public benefits to buy premium foods. It is possible to eat well on a budget by being proactive. I would suspect that anyone buying $20/lb beef or $34 lobster tail would run out of benefit money quickly. And often, the lobster has been frozen so long, it has lost flavor.

Part of the psyop we’re experiencing (IMO) is that prices and shortages change rapidly and are used to unbalance people’s expectations. Ex: lettuce was up to $7 just a few weeks ago. Last week I spent $3. Everything is increased in price, but the extremes rachet up and down. We all just need to know how to manage these events by doing whatever we can to get thru them. So, we need to know how to prepare, how to cook from limited resources, how to spot a deal when they appear. If someone is shopping with an empty pantry or freezer, they are going to learn the value of stocking up quickly and it can be difficult without the requisite funds.

Actually, my main problem recently is that when I try to replace something in the pantry, I often need to wait until it appears again or understand ways to substitute. If my freezers are full, I use some of the older items and often prepare soups/sauces/stews for the days I don’t want to or can’t spend the time/effort cooking a small amount. I have a greater problem with limited available space than anything else except total absence of what I want.

No one should eat garbage. OTOH, given today’s world, there is no guarantee that lobster or filet or anything else is a clean & wholesome product. Usually, I rely on whether it is fresh vs previously frozen, look for visible fat content and think in terms of how many servings/how much nutrition it will supply relative to the price.

I know someone who was born on a Caribbean island that is mostly desert in the 1960s. They were in their 20s before they ever saw a live chicken or butchered chicken that wasn’t in already frozen portions. Even in the 21st century, employed people there could only survive by fishing because food came by ship and was very expensive. Now, with travel difficulties and reduced tourism, these folks are turning to their elders for lessons on how to survive.

I’ve managed 80 years so far with no severe health issues through times of limited income or energy as well as times of abundance. I’m not especially talented, so I think anyone can do this. In fact, I know people who have spent long periods on government support and are excellent cooks whose meals are superior in quantity/quality.

At some point, the government subsidies will run out &/or the supplies of food will be restricted or vanish. We are all in this together and so we all need to know how to cope for the worst. Knowledge and experience are all anyone will have when it reaches that point.


104 posted on 01/26/2023 12:45:30 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Red Badger

Some of that stuff was so nasty that recipients gave it away or didn’t bother collecting it.


105 posted on 03/13/2024 10:28:56 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They don’t receive money. It’s a card voucher which allows only the purchase of food.


106 posted on 03/13/2024 10:30:56 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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To: Little Pig

You are closer to correct. Grain based foods do not work well for a host of health issues, and are the cause of obesity.

I don’t know if other states are going the way of Iowa, but if so, many of you will be inpacted as well. Farms are being cut-off from financing, and are going bust.

Farmers borrow money in the fall so they can fertilize and operate in the spring. When the harvest comes, they pay off those loans so that they can begin again. Now, any loans are not including what it costs to pay farm help and that includes the farmer.

Small farmers are having to give up their farms and move out of state to survive and support their families.

This si going to impact your ability to go to work, and feed your families. And it’s going to happen very soon. In fact, it’s begun.

Your options to mitigate these issues are also under attack by cities and counties making small backyard food production illegal.


107 posted on 03/13/2024 10:47:11 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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To: EBH
Why can't they get lobster off the menu while preserving a low-cost 80/20 hamburger tube that can make two different meals?

Here's the problem with laws like this -- you'll just shove the burden over to the schools, so now the schools will say, "Elementary students can't eat baby formula because of big mean Wepubwicans, so now we need Eleventy Billion dollars to give our students 80/20 hamburger 24/7/265!"

108 posted on 03/13/2024 10:52:48 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: StAnDeliver

365


109 posted on 03/13/2024 10:52:56 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: PrairieLady2

Not what I mean.

They go to facility and are given grocery bags of staples like meat, rice, beans, milk and vegetables. Like a military commissary but without paying.


110 posted on 03/13/2024 4:02:19 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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