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1 posted on 01/22/2023 12:45:31 PM PST by george76
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So true.


2 posted on 01/22/2023 12:49:11 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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Coincidentally, the same people who want to reduce population and get them out of their cars and off their airplanes to save the erf just so happened to mandate vaccines for pilots


3 posted on 01/22/2023 12:49:24 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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Just like the FDA changed the definition of “vaccine” twice when the Fauci/China weaponized virus “vaccines” didn’t protect from infection or transmission.

https://www.journalinquirer.com/opinion/chris_powell/vaccine-definition-was-changed-as-covid-19-virus-shots-weakened/article_e36de93e-7226-11ec-a67f-e3b8d07df769.html


4 posted on 01/22/2023 12:52:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: george76

Another reason not to fly, not that I needed any more.


5 posted on 01/22/2023 12:55:03 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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This on top of proposing only one pilot per flight.

The US government is amping up its wholesale slaughter of Americans.


6 posted on 01/22/2023 1:01:14 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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EKG readings of between 0.12 and 0.2. However, from October 26th, the FAA increased that measurement to 0.3. That’s over a 100 percent increase from the low marker.

I think we're having problems with logic and math.

7 posted on 01/22/2023 1:24:04 PM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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So accepting a pilot with a PR interval above the previous cutoff represents a significantly increased risk for arrhythmias, such as atrial fibrillation, and is associated with an increase in all-cause mortality (over the 30-40 year study period). That’s what I get out of the article.

“It can only be a matter of time before a catastrophic air accident occurs due to a pilot’s adverse health event. But the destruction will likely mask the evidence, so it’s quite possible we’ll never know.”

But the article doesn’t say what the same risk is for people with the previous cutoff, and I don’t know it and don’t want to spend time looking up what should already have been in the article. If the risk is nearly zero, but now is still nearly zero (although higher than before), is this a difference that makes a difference? And how much risk is “acceptable” to the public? A lot, if you think of its penchant for driving, but not much of the COVID scare is instead considered. And if the all-cause mortality is higher in people with a larger PR, implying worse heart disease, what is the average age for those deaths? Is it within 2 years of exam, or 20 years after retiring from being a pilot??? And what is the real risk of an incapacitation and a subsequent catastrophic air event (which planes presumably have a copilot and perhaps also computer-aided flying and landing), from atrial fibrillation or some degree of heart block which are at increased RISK of occurring with a higher PR interval???

And autopsies are done on pilots who crash, and frequently when they die on the ground because they’re usually “young” and “relatively healthy” (or they wouldn’t be active pilots, right????). Unless a body is totally burned up or the heart itself is destroyed in a crash, which isn’t very often, pre-existing heart disease can be found and documented. Mind you, no autopsy can show the function of the heart at the time of air catastrophic event (arrhythmias and heart blocks are physiologic events that don’t show up on a non-beating, i.e., dead, heart). The autopsy will (maybe) show just possible reasons why an increased PR interval or a dysrhythmia (of several types) might have been present.

My point is not to doubt the reportedly increased risk, but to highlight how the news article doesn’t really understand the science or what “increased risk” really means, or what a post-crash autopsy might show, and what amount of risk is acceptable to the public, and I would love to have had those covered in the article.


8 posted on 01/22/2023 1:25:34 PM PST by Notthemomma ( )
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“Put simply, any pilot flying right now who has been vaccinated in the U.S. has almost certainly not received an FDA-approved vaccine, as the available J&J, Pfizer, and Moderna shots are not yet FDA-approved.”

These vaccines are fully approved.


9 posted on 01/22/2023 1:33:10 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: george76; Fido969; HYPOCRACY; E. Pluribus Unum
I really do find this maddening, but my mind could not help going here.

Dean Martin airline pilot skit

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dean+martin+airline+pilot+skit&qpvt=dean+martin+airline+pilot+skit&FORM=VDRE&adlt=strict&toWww=1&redig=8B26C37D8E01495092E9D9E78390131B

10 posted on 01/22/2023 1:34:20 PM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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“FAA knows it and said nothing because that would tip off the country that the vaccines are unsafe. And you aren’t allowed to do that.”

But they can’t hide it for much longer. What happens when it eventually comes out - in a modified, limited hangout - from the mouths of “trusted” authorities? Their intended “Trump’s fault for rushing it!” defense isn’t going to save them.

11 posted on 01/22/2023 1:36:06 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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If they’re going to let their pilots have heart attacks on takeoff then they need to be sure that the co-pilot knows how to fly the plane:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAROM_Flight_371


15 posted on 01/22/2023 2:10:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Should be public policy that the vax status of pilot/co-pilot must be disclosed for each flight.


16 posted on 01/22/2023 4:44:22 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: george76

Glad my Delta Captain son did not get the jabs


17 posted on 01/22/2023 8:44:53 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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The FAA forced the pilots to get the deadly vaccinations and now that the pilots are quitting so they do not have to and there are big delays as aircrews are not available or are either dying while at the controls or suffering heart problems and other issues from the deadly vaccinations.
The FAA now changes the medical requirements to ignore the results of the deadly vaccinations.

They will not be able to ignore the plane crashes.


18 posted on 01/23/2023 12:12:28 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: george76; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; metmom

20 posted on 02/01/2023 4:21:29 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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