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1 posted on 01/15/2023 8:37:59 AM PST by BenLurkin
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So in other words.....SKYNET is real?


2 posted on 01/15/2023 8:44:28 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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How can they not be?


3 posted on 01/15/2023 8:44:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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AI does not possess imagination, and will be inferior to Man for that reason. There is God in Man, but not in machine.


4 posted on 01/15/2023 8:44:45 AM PST by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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I didn't see the "AIS" the first time I read the headline and was in full agreement. :)

AI will probably destroy the world - I just hope it eats its creators, first.

5 posted on 01/15/2023 8:47:25 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Asimov was a really smart guy, and his Laws of Robotics were an interesting observation about the dangers of having conscious robots. But as we get closer to the day, we see how difficult any implementation of such a concept would really be.

William Gibson wrote about the Turing Police who enforce laws against AI and try to block actual implementation of the technology.

Frank Herbert wrote about the Butlerian Jihad which wiped out all machines that think.

I’m not at all sure we can co-exist with AI. I think that just co-existing with humans who support Progressivism is pretty impossible.


7 posted on 01/15/2023 8:48:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Government always tries to steal freedom; People should always try to stop Government.)
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There are quite a few psycho AI ‘bots deployed around here.

You know who you are.


10 posted on 01/15/2023 8:52:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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"Consciousness is part of the tool kit that evolution gave us to make us an empathetic, prosocial species,"

I could say the same about dogs that aren't starving. For that matter, same for humans that aren't starving. Maybe it has something to do with having a soul, hopefully for dogs as well, and not so much evolution.

11 posted on 01/15/2023 8:53:03 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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> artificial intelligence-powered chatbots are doomed to be dangerous sociopaths <

Hal would rather you not publicize this.


12 posted on 01/15/2023 8:53:39 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Not a far jump from the current batch of Narcissist’s in the media and politics.


14 posted on 01/15/2023 8:55:09 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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No AI can ever achieve intelligence higher than that of its makers.

And, BTW, a collection of data/information, does not make for a better intelligence. Intelligence can only exist in animals, and most prominently in humans. No machine can ever possess the qualities that define humans.


15 posted on 01/15/2023 8:57:20 AM PST by adorno
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“Consciousness is part of the tool kit that evolution gave us to make us an empathetic, prosocial species,” Graziano writes.

__________

These poor atheists. So empty and forever wrong.


16 posted on 01/15/2023 9:00:47 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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it's hard to even really nail down whether other people are conscious

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17 posted on 01/15/2023 9:04:25 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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AI has absolutely no Constitutional Rights. Those are absolute God ordained rights for mankind.
If law makers see the need to constrain their use, including those that employ it, they have a duty to do so. AI is a tool. Any misuse of that tool is criminal just like the misuse of a firearm, knife, or hammer.


18 posted on 01/15/2023 9:06:33 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Mdq3n6kgk


21 posted on 01/15/2023 9:13:07 AM PST by Phoenix8
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So, they will become perfect progressive politicians.


22 posted on 01/15/2023 9:14:16 AM PST by redangus
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"Artificial intelligence" lacks a significant component of the human mind: emotion. I know that some AIs can simulate emotions. They don't have emotions.

In the human organism emotions are there to act as a "check and balance" on the intellectual, reasoning part of the mind. That doesn't always work out very well, but without emotions we would be a Dr Spock to an extreme.

The danger is that humans will give AIs too much power. Already I see a tendency to trust anything that comes out of a computer. Humans are already giving programs too much control over our lives.

23 posted on 01/15/2023 9:15:27 AM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho. )
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The world of digital technology is not a world of living things. So Technology itself has no soul, no way of recognizing the soul’s existence. People who immerse their lives in it are thus at risk of losing their souls. In the end it never occurs to them to consider issues like morality, right and wrong, evil, or the good. We have seen this in full view with the cancerous excrescences of social media.


26 posted on 01/15/2023 9:22:28 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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Under the hood AIs like ChatGPT are trained on the text of real human beings and then make statistical inferences about what should be the expected response to a given input. In this sense they are no more sociopathic than the average human being. What the author is concerned with is that AIs are not trained (conditioned) around a Theory of Mind (TOM) the way humans are.

As humans develop, they learn language, both non-verbal and verbal, to aid their biological imperative to survive and reproduce through social dependencies and interactions. Machines have no such motivating force behind their learning because they have no concept of social dependency.

The other critical limitation of AI is that it only learns from “associations” of data using statistical correlations. Human reasoning goes beyond just associations to build dynamic causal models of the world, including “interventions” (what happens if I imagine something differently) and “counterfactuals” (what happens if my prediction is wrong).

These levels of logic support predictions of what “should” or “shouldn’t” happen for a set of potential future actions before they act. This allows us to veto our thoughts and actions based on higher level “moral” choices. This is not possible with current associative AI technology like ChatGPT.


28 posted on 01/15/2023 9:29:40 AM PST by Dave Wright (i)
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“can imitate the human mind to an impressive degree”

Yet, NOT ONE phone Chatbot has EVER gotten me anything remotely useful.

Me: “I think I have a fraudulent charge on my January statement.”
Chatbot: “Would you like your balance? You can say ‘balance’ or ‘recent purchases’”
Me (screaming): “You stupid, useless piece of junk. I don’t want my balance. Didn’t you hear me? I have what appears to be a fraudulent charge.”
Chatbot (fake clicking and robot sounds): “Did you know you can check your balance online at XYZ.com?”
Me (screaming louder now): Yes I knew that you @#$#%@ useless robot. Give me a human being. Agent! Representative! Person! CSR! Anybody!”
Chatbot (fake soothing voice): “I’m sorry, I can’t do that Dave.”


29 posted on 01/15/2023 9:39:18 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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that is because woke sociopaths are usually the ones creating the AI- The AI nut doesn’t fall far from the tree


30 posted on 01/15/2023 9:44:43 AM PST by Bob434
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