Posted on 01/14/2023 8:33:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Bkmk
Lots of parts supplied—and most likely every schematic/blueprint stolen—by the ChiComs.
Canada, will, of course, call their variant the “CF-35.”
Someone from Québec, now a U.S. Citizen living in California, will have helped design some new variant of an O-ring for an explosive bolt, so the CF-35 will be billed in the state media as a fighter built by Canada and the U.S.A.,
following in the tradition of the country that built a U.S.-designed articulating arm with one hinge, the CANADARM, as part of the U.S.-CANADA Space Shuttle Program.
Oh, fond memories of my 100% Canadian C7 AKA M-16 rifle!
Oh well. To be Canadian, essentially, is to “not be American.”
Best fighter ever though? Well, different fighters do different things well.
A buddy of mine flew the F22. Let’s just say he would beg to differ.
Okay, okay... Maybe two hinges.
“Lots of parts supplied... by the ChiComs”
Okay, we heard about the turbomachine magnets using Chinese-sourced alloy and the circuit boards made in the U.K. by a well-known and established company owned by Chinese interests. The parts worked, no question about that.
Please supply a list of “lots” of others.
“and most likely every schematic/blueprint stolen”
The Chinese J-20 stealth fighter appears operational clearly without utilizing stolen F-35 blueprints. The design is very different. So unless they’re planning on coming out with an F-35 clone 15 years from now the usefulness of those would appear limited.
F-35 .. best fighter... as long as the F-22 isn’t around
of course, you wouldn’t know it’s around until you’re smoked...
We will not know until they meet enemy fighters in combat how good the F-35 really is. People thought the P-40 was good too. Lets hope we never find out. Give Peace a chance.
“The fact that the F-35 was the most affordable, maintainable, and sustainable fighter“
Odd words to describe your confidence in a fighter. It’s a short legged, slow non maneuverable lightly armed moonpig that is semi stealthy. Decent attack aircraft for some missions. But the minute it’s network is compromised, it’s meat on the plate.
P-40 was a very good plane. Better came along later in the war, but it and the Wildcat were far better than they get credit for in pop culture.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/p40.htm
In 1943 the 325th won two major engagements. On July 1, 22 checker-tailed P-40s were making a fighter sweep over southern Italy when they were jumped by 40 Bf-109s. After an intense air battle, the result was half of the German aircraft shot down for the loss of a single P-40. There was a similar situation on the 30th of July, again over Italy, when 35 Bf-109s ambushed 20 P-40s. On this occasion, 21 German fighters were shot down, again for the loss of a single P-40. Because the pilots of the 325th were trained to maximize the P-40’s strengths and minimize its weaknesses, it became a lethal opponent for the German fighters. The final record of “The Checker-Tailed Clan’s” P-40s was 135 Axis planes shot down (96 were Bf-109s), for only 17 P-40s lost in combat.
I worked all through the winter of 2007/08 at Fort Worth, installing a manufacturing system for the F-35 program. Those words echo precisely what the Lockheed guys thought. They were pretty unhappy that the F-22 program was curtailed.
Somebody somewhere in the Puzzle Palace thinks there won't be a need for a pure air-superiority fighter when we finally have to deal with the Chinese.
An airframe hampered by its' thick airfoil and inadequately supercharged Allison engine. Slower but pretty maneuverable up to about 12,000 feet, but no higher. In the Pacific they were used as low cover, Corsairs and Hellcats in the middle, and P-38s up top.
In a low-altitude scrap with Me-109s, it was no surprise that they did well. The 109 was scary to pull tight turns with at low altitude, because those leading-edge slats didn't always deploy properly, and it also wasn't unknown for a strong hand on the stick to pull the a wing right off.
your final sentence needs to factor something into the equation.
there are those in the US govt actively working to empower the chinese govt while undermining the US. the 0bama admin deliberately shutdown the F-22 for the inferior F-35 while also leaking the F-22 designs to the chinese... who have since put out their own version of it, the J-20.
the long range goal seems to be to supplant the US on the world stage, destroy the country, and discredit it’s govt without losing all the advancements our style of governance has brought the world.
and they’ve been actively doing everything in their power to accomplish these tasks since at least the mid 90s (see: chinagate and the COX report)
“Lots of parts supplied—and most likely every schematic/blueprint stolen—by the ChiComs.”
They don’t have to steal them, since they’re now designing them. At least that’s what my cousin tells me who works in the industry (for Big Defense). At least in his large design facility, over half of the people are Asian, with MANY from China. Sure they’re NOW citizens...but many weren’t born here, and even the ones who were born here see themselves as citizens of China (their parents’ home), first.
But, in the end, Americans simply don’t bother with advanced engineering anymore (some still get BS degrees, but virtually every student for MS and PhD is foreign, and virtually all from China), so what choice does Big Defense have?
F-35 is best multi-role fighter.
F-22 is (still) the best air-superiority fighter (despite being far older).
There's a great youtube video around by a test pilot talking about the F-22 and comparing it with every other aircraft he's flown (LOTS of models).
The former Canadian Government bougt the F-35 and Trudeau cancelled it and now buying them again which will cost more , Trudeau is like his step dad Dirty Pierre and if he needs money he takes it from the military so expect the purchase of F35s to be reduced ,LOL
Our kollege kidz be too woke and too dumb to be studyin dat hard shit, knowhutimsayin? It be BLACK™®©$ (did I make it more importanter enough?) studies fo me, naamean?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-detects-chinese-parts-in-all-f-35s-purchased-after-program-shutdown/ar-AA11EOQg
“and most likely every schematic/blueprint stolen”
I don't have time to look for the original article, but I believe in 2008, it was discovered that cisco, in their stupidity and greed, opened up a factory in china, and $omehow ¢ovine¢e$ the state department to allow the routers to be made there, AND sold to the pentagon. China somehow installed a chip in the routers, thereby likely grabbing every. Single. Thing. We. Ever. Made. We are defeated, we just do not know it yet. And this was BEFORE trannies and woeness.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/10/04/the-chinese-spy-chip-story-is-a-reminder-of-how-insecure-our-digital-world-really-is/?sh=44ffc6a77e13
The Chinese J-20 stealth fighter appears operational clearly without utilizing stolen F-35 blueprints.
That's because from what I have read, the J20 is a ripoff of RUSSIAN designs. (as well as a little US thrown in)
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