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Job interviews are a nightmare — and only getting worse
Vox ^ | 1/12/22

Posted on 01/12/2023 5:15:00 AM PST by EBH

In late 2022, Jessica found herself in a predicament that will sound familiar to many job seekers: slogging through an extended interview process with seemingly no end in sight.

She was up for a job as a fundraiser at a major social services organization in New York. Across the span of two months, she took part in six separate interviews with nine people total, multiple of whom she met more than once. She’d pulled one of her first all-nighters in years putting together a dummy presentation on a hypothetical corporate partnership for interview No. 4, which entailed what she describes as a 15-minute “monologue” from her on the matter followed by a 45-minute Q&A with a panel. It wasn’t until the final interview that she got a real one-on-one sit-down with the person who would be her boss.

“Every time I thought, ‘Okay, this is the final hump,’ there was another thing,” said Jessica, which is a pseudonym. Vox granted her anonymity in order to protect her privacy and keep her out of hot water with her current employer. “It just gets really mentally exhausting, and it’s hard to manage your work schedule because obviously you don’t want your employer to know you’re interviewing.”

“There’s no reason why 10 years ago we were able to hire people on two interviews and now it’s taking 20 rounds of interviews,” said Maddie Machado, a career strategist who has previously worked as a recruiter at companies such as LinkedIn, Meta, and Microsoft. “It’s kind of like dating. When you go on a first date, you need a second date. You don’t need 20 dates to know if you like somebody.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: interviews; jobs; labor
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To: EBH
"She was up for a job as a fundraiser at a major social services organization in New York."

Oh c'mon this one is painfully obvious.

"I feel bad for those who get f*cked by it, by this dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths and so everyone likes us." - Samuel Bankman-Fried

61 posted on 01/12/2023 7:10:45 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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SCHADENFREUDE!

"As for the actual job in question, she didn’t end up getting it. A week after her last interview, Jessica followed up with the recruiter and learned the organization was moving forward with another candidate. “They probably wanted to go with the other person all along but wanted me as a backup,” she said."

62 posted on 01/12/2023 7:13:26 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Oh wow!!! I hadn’t seen that one...My wife sent the joke to me in an e-mail...

Thanks...


63 posted on 01/12/2023 7:17:36 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Theophilus 7

“checks all the boxes!”


64 posted on 01/12/2023 7:20:56 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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I hate interviewing.


65 posted on 01/12/2023 7:27:59 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP

I mean as a job candidate.


66 posted on 01/12/2023 7:28:37 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: EBH

This is nuts. I’ve never had more than a phone or video conference screening interview followed by a site visit interview.

In a recent interview I didn’t get past the screening interview. I wonder if it was because I was the only one on the conf call that didn’t list my preferred pronouns. I’m not particularly saddened.


67 posted on 01/12/2023 7:28:47 AM PST by posterchild
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To: EBH

If a candidate drives his/her own car to the interview it can also be illuminating to observe any bumper stickers on the car.


68 posted on 01/12/2023 7:32:33 AM PST by posterchild
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To: Tench_Coxe

I think laws mandate multiple people have to be interviewed. And the interviews must include a black, a Hispanic and trans boy who sometimes steals luggage.


69 posted on 01/12/2023 7:33:21 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: posterchild

I never hire ANYBODY with the “Caliph Baraq is my homeboy” bumper sticker.


70 posted on 01/12/2023 7:34:27 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: nascarnation
Or one of those COEXIST bumper stickers.

Those are the least likely people you would want to COEXIST with!

71 posted on 01/12/2023 7:36:05 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,777,271 | Truth Social | 87,821,414 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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To: subterfuge
“checks all the boxes!”

That has been a problem for me. This article really hit home as I was laid off in August, and have gone through milder versions of what is described in the article.

In IT, employers list 20 things they want, the odds of hitting all 20 on one candidate who will accept what the employer feels like paying is nil.

The recruiters in IT these days are almost ALL Indian, and it is often difficult for me to understand them. Worse, they might be sitting there on the phone with my résumé, asking things like:

Do you have experience with servers?
Do you have experience with switches
Do you have experience with networking?
Do you have experience with infrastructure?

That is ALL infrastructure!

Very frustrating.

I once thought that the Internet and remote work meant that the right people could be matched with the right position more quickly. Instead, I get a decent match for a position in Anchor, Illinois (REALLY in the middle of nowhere), and literally a dozen different recruiters call me on it, I submit everything, and then radio silence.

The system is broken.
72 posted on 01/12/2023 7:44:01 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: SamAdams76

73 posted on 01/12/2023 7:48:23 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: EBH

10 years ago I had one phone interview and got the job. My current job, which will be my last, I had 5 interviews with 7 different people, two of those by phone. Actually the fifth interview was at my request because I wanted to see their manufacturing floor.

Current company has 22 HR personnel and they all list their preferred pronouns on Slack. Two more years and I’m out!


74 posted on 01/12/2023 8:12:56 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

LOL! Not really funny though.


75 posted on 01/12/2023 8:14:58 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: BillyBonebrake

“Where do you see yourself in five years?”

“I see myself finishing my final interview and waiting to see if I get hired.”


76 posted on 01/12/2023 8:36:19 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: cgbg

When I was hiring I could eliminate most candidates within five minutes.

The finalists would get a tour of the facility and the quality of their questions would separate the candidates quickly.


I feel the same way. You get a very credible (but not always 100% accurate) gut feel about someone in the first few minutes. The questions they ask are always very important. A singular focus on pay & benefits is always a dead give-a-way.

It is also helpful to task them questions about your company or organization. If they have done ZERO research before the interview, that is a dead give-a-way too.


77 posted on 01/12/2023 8:53:57 AM PST by rbg81
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To: subterfuge
"I think laws mandate multiple people have to be interviewed."

LOL, read the story, it was down to her versus another girl, and I guarantee you (a) both white (b) both woke Millenial (c) both passable looking. The only difference is the skirt chasers in the Executive Suite figured the other girl could simply be bought off more cheaply (note the loser in the article suggests her job-seeking was salary-motivated).

78 posted on 01/12/2023 8:58:02 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: EEGator
The field of employment probably matters a ton…

Agree. You are in a "hard skills" environment as an EE. It is the "soft" skills like "project managment', "business analysis" etc. that are more subjective on both sides of the process.

79 posted on 01/12/2023 9:06:23 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: SamAdams76
If my employees decide this candidate would be a good fit for the team, I hand it off to HR so they can make an offer and do all the paperwork.

How does the salary negotiation work in your otherwise reasonable system? If any of the team members is threatened by a candidate's abilities and lobbies for a lowball offer, and you are more or less detached from HR during the paperwork phase, how do you determine what the incoming hire is actually worth?

80 posted on 01/12/2023 9:16:08 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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