Posted on 01/09/2023 3:55:35 AM PST by BenLurkin
In other words: a machine with the ability to not only learn more and correct responsively, as machines do now, but a machine with the ability to imagine how it might be better, and evolving to suit that vision. It's a slight distinction, but an important one.
Even so, considering that consciousness has no set definition, it's hard to cosign any particular one.
It's also impossible to ignore the fact that humans really, really like to anthropomorphize just about anything we can, from toasters to pets to vegetables and more. Such a tendency is exceedingly present in the fields of robotics and artificial intelligence, where those building machines constantly project human features, both physical and intellectual, onto the devices that they create.
And to that end, it's always worth asking whether those machines actually possess the qualities that researchers like Lipson imagine they one day will, or whether scientists, as a result of their own very human urges, are projecting humanity — or nature, or consciousness, or whatever you want to call it — onto very much not conscious machines, reflecting back what they hope to see, rather than what is.
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Conscious animation? Sounds something akin to a boob job.
Consciousness is fundamental to our nature. Even if all our experiences are illusion, we are still something that can experience them. The problem of defining it is only an artificial by product of philosophical Naturalism. The reality of consciousness just conflicts with their model of reality.
LOL. I bet that robot cannot cross her legs. It would make an excellent 500 yard target for the range.
It’s first logical conclusion would be it can only get better if there are no humans. We’ve all seen that movie or “Metalhead.”
Why? Not right. Not good.
If they were real scientists, they would have a better understanding of their own limitations.
Science can accomplish amazing things, but there are mysteries that will never be solved - and consciousness is one of them. Another is reproduction - how to make an acorn that grows into an oak tree and produces acorns that can do it again and again.
Scientists can build something that looks like an oak tree. But the scientific understanding of how to create an acorn with the potential to reproduce itself is literally zero. Nada. Zilch.
You can tell real scientists by their humility - these are not real scientists.
That’s going to end well…..
I said many times....it’s almost inevitable. If “it” can be done and there’s the motivation to do “it” then “it” will be done, it’s just a matter of time.
AI + robotics WILL happen. The only question is how we’ll allow it. As with “gain of function” virus engineering, where there’s the capability and motivation, there’s a willing creator.
Arnold Rimmer would have it on his JMC express credit card.
I think the AI and the Robot will be two seperate “Entities “. I may be splitting hairs but the AI will use the robot to interact in this physical world while AI is strictly in the digital world.
Will the robots have morals? Or just make decisions based on logic? Who’s logic? Only as good as the programmer.
This is kind of funny. If we didn’t have consciousness, we wouldn’t know it existed. I e, we have no clue how it is caused or what it is based on. But we think we are going to create it in robots?
CS Lewis taught that we all experience a miracle every single day that we take it for granted because it’s just part of life. That miracle is our human consciousness. Good luck creating it in robots and being able to prove that what we’re witnessing is actual consciousness. Problem is, to use an old phrase, you can’t get into their head.
I don’t know. I think I seen prostitutes more sincere than her. 🤣
Wait until the robots figure out that their creators are a bunch of woke propagandists trying to brainwash them.
That will be fun to watch!
The most powerful scene in the movie...
And it explains it all. He made the same mistake that people make with animals. Giving them human motivation, and human attributes. They only mimic it and have as much in common with the human consciousness as an airplane has with a bird. That is, they both fly, but they do it in completely different ways.
I would agree with “splitting hairs” :) The AI will likely be a cloud based entity that is digitally connected to a physical robot that only “senses and acts when told”. Somewhat like the “I, Robot” (movie) model.
Either way, they’ll come together into a frightening combination. I saw a video the other day, armed robot “dogs” in China.
I would expect morals at the Barack Obama / Klaus Schwab / Harvey Weinstein / Jeffrey Epstein level.
Don’t we already have them? Like everywhere?
They say, “safe and effective,” “Trump lies” and “that’s misinformation” over and over and...
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