Posted on 12/31/2022 11:39:51 AM PST by RandFan
Unfortunately... correct
History has shown that repeatedly
I will not refute your timeline or the fact that Covid itself can cause other health problems.
However, when those articles were published I believe Pfizer and Moderna KNEW what the trial data showed. They have done other things to try and provide themselves “cover” like “sealing records” from their trial data. Look at the dates on the unsealed records and they knew cardiac issues were a primary concern. These companies control our media and government!
I never wanted to wear a tinfoil hat in my life but Covid has started me down the path. I am not afraid to admit it and I would love to be wrong, but I think these people are that evil and greedy.
It is the only way I can explain them lobbying our public health officials and politicians to vaccinate children.
This is SICK. They are putting the health of adults (mild risk from Covid) over the health of children (no risk from Covid).
Amen @20
Do the opposite of what the media tells you!
It took him awhile and I had not seen this previously, but he has officially been redpilled!
Too many people are making too much money and they aren’t about to kill the cash cow for a few million peasants’ lives.
It seems to skip the political class also. I wonder why? Could it be they were all getting saline injections for the camera? When members of congress or the administration start dropping from heart problems I will believe it.
When you have the wrong people trying to convince you to do something, run the other way as fast as you can.
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He is. He has made it very clear that he self-censors in order to stay on YouTube. He's already had two strikes and I think he's said that if he gets one more then his channel gets snuffed.
He says what he thinks but carefully worded so that (1) you know what he means and (2) he slips under YouTube's radar.
I’ve got an acquaintance that has as of this week been “vaxxed” 5 times.
He had to have his 5th shoot postponed as he recovered from...
(drum roll)
COVID!
Vaccines do work in some cases.
Polio is a fantastic example.
However, today it’s a racket where through mandates and public health spending big pharma makes billions and often delivering little. Big pharma using school mandates has been trying to push through the idea of mandatory vaccines for years! They have been wanting laws requiring people to buy their product for a long time. Then came the elections 2020.
The problem with many of these viruses is that they mutate to rapidly. You cannot map the virus and mass produce a vaccine in quantity in time. They tried all they could this time (a concerted national effort) and even took short cuts when it came to testing for safety, employing new development technologies and literally using billions in federal money and STILL couldn’t get there, not really.
Vaccines are no different than any other medicine. You need to weigh the cost with the benefit and things such as occupation, sexual habits, travel, age, sex, pre-existing conditions, race/ethnicity, if previously exposed, even diet are variables which should determine if it makes sense. The “herd immunity” argument is a faux argument in many of these cases because they simply cannot effectively vaccinate, example flu.
The virus in many cases has thousands of stands and they are basically just guessing what will be out there in the future. Many vaccines have a long time before they become effective in the body and if exposed they won’t work in time. Some vaccines simply have a very low efficacy and even if vaccinated you’re no better off than someone unvaxed 50% of the time or worse. In some cases, especially when they guess it wrong, the vaccine can actually cause the virus to be worse in those vaxed!
Vaccines do make sense, and in some cases even the mass vaccination makes sense, but today driven by profits big pharma is pushing for vaccines like HPV and trying to have those made “mandatory” in schools as well.
***The short answer: Today we’re climbing to the top of the tree trying to pick a fruit that may not even taste good.***
The low hanging fruit has already mostly been picked (Polio, Tetanus, MMR...), but we want to make money and we’re trying hard to convince people that they need that bitter fruit hanging all the way at the top of the tree. Looking back and using arguments not applicable in the cases today (small pox for example) we attempt to convince people that it is science and logical what we are doing. We made mandates for vaccines that were not properly tested, using newer technologies to manufacture, for a virus that mutates too rapidly to realistically be ahead of the game, and where the mortality was greatly over exaggerated (by a factor of near 100 times from original reports!), where the reporting included anyone dying that merely had any symptoms or even died with Covid but realistically from something else (before testing was available).
Of course the decision makers will never admit they made foolish decisions unless they are forced into conceding it, as Cuomo was. However, Covid stands as a monument for how (((NOT))) to do things. No politician or bureaucrat will be at fault for anything, no business person will go to prison for racketeering, but I hope that at least someone learns a lesson from this and that this mass exercise in group think and mass over reaction, faux science and money making doesn’t repeat itself.
I never got the vax and I was horribly ill with Covid two years ago...weeks and weeks in bed, vomiting, coughing, sweating profusely, couldn’t stand up to walk to the bathroom, I had to crawl to get there. Friends and family brought me food but I could barely eat.
Thank God I made it...but it was pretty bad.
Now I’m sick with flu/bronchitis/rsv, on my fifth week of being horribly sick.
Oh well...this, too, shall pass!
Ed
Which article? What trial data in August 2020? Phase 3 on Pfizer had only started on July 27.
"They have done other things to try and provide themselves ācoverā like āsealing recordsā from their trial data. Look at the dates on the unsealed records and they knew cardiac issues were a primary concern."
You assert they "sealed records from their trial data", and in the very next breath you state "Look at the dates on the unsealed records".
They attempted to get the records sealed for 75 years of the trial data and “formula”. Sure, the “FDA” attempted to deep-six the records but they were acting on behalf of their benefactor - big pharma.
They have released records after being ordered to by a court even tried to claim it would take them 55 years to comply with FOIA requests.
Are you saying they did not try to hide the records and trial data? They did.
I believe there are still records that have not yet been released including communications and emails between FDA executives and pharma executives. I think Twitter may dump some communications with Fauci this week.
The trial data clearly showed risks and higher risks for people not vulnerable to Covid.
Dr. Campbell lays it out nicely in this video based on the data that they DID try to hide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYR1wz-Cf_M
Take care of yourself so that it don’t become pneumonia.
The points I was trying to make, in a short:
1. Not all vaccines are the same.
Some work, some sort of work. Some have a lot of side effects, some few. Some last a long time, some have a short duration...
Example: I have had the Anthrax vaccine, it has more side effects and lasts a short time.
2. Not all diseases are the same.
Some diseases affect certain groups more. Some you can vaccinate even after exposure realistically. Some diseases are simply not that bad if you’re in good health (I just deal with the flu if I get it - 1 week and I’m fine). some don’t spread that easily...
Example: Anthrax can be deadly, but it does not spread easily to people, realistically.
3. Not all people are the same.
Based on age, race, sex, sexual orientation and practices, travels, occupation, ethnicity, BMI, pre existing conditions, certain diseases pose a greater or lesser threat to people.
Example: I was in the DoD at the time and N. Korea is known to have stockpiles of Anthrax that has been weaponized. So for me specifically, it may have made sense at the time. It may also make sense for some veterinarians and people sheering wool.
4. Herd immunity is a real thing.
But that can be attained naturally (that is what happened for millennia before we were able to diagnose all these diseases or even had vaccines). Today this argument is used to justify vaccine mandates and vast government programs.
Big pharma has been trying to push for all sorts of mandates for a long time, example: public schools.
***Using the false argument of herd immunity (not true with Covid and this vaccine), we are trying to argue that a “one size fits all shoe” is the best fit for everyone.***
It didn’t pan out. It didn’t work even with their 5th booster, privacy right violations, coercion and mandates and billions upon billions spent. It didn’t work even with them taking short cuts in safety protocols for testing, using faster but less well known mRNA technology. But meanwhile we are STILL being told the lie and spending more on this BS.
Never mind the damage done to people and businesses, no one in government or big pharma will ever stand trial or suffer any sort of repercussions for this.
***But at a minimum people should take note and question what they are being told when this happens again.***
Article written when the Democrats were calling the vaccine “Dangerous and untested”
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/09/03/what-covid-19-is-doing-to-the-heart-even-after-recovery
If herd immunity isn’t an argument, then what is regards the mandates?
Herd immunity is the key argument that rationalizes the violations of peoples privacy, federal employee mandates the push (advertising etc) of vaccines for all (including children that are not really at risk from this disease).
But if the vaccine came late, there are many strains and the virus is mutating to rapidly and we’re just really chasing the ball, if the vaccine isn’t really improving much for those that are getting vaccinated (i.e. many still get sick and die with Covid), then what is the purpose? What is the argument for this “requirement” to be vaccinated? It’s not herd immunity.
***That said, this entire debate turns into an issue of individual choice. Cost/risk vs benefit from an individual perspective.***
Thanks, Red6,
Take care,
Ed
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