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1 posted on 12/30/2022 8:52:55 AM PST by BenLurkin
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Right now with all the hate directed toward all things Musk, the Starship will be relegated to the far future since the program was based on ‘test to failure’ model, now limited to one maybe test flight a year.

Once Bezos’ Blue Horizons catches up, all things Space X and Starship will be cancelled as things sit now.


2 posted on 12/30/2022 9:00:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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How could boosting the orbit make a difference when you are looking at stuff Light Years away. I don’t understand how even a million mile boost would make a difference.


3 posted on 12/30/2022 9:05:41 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: BenLurkin

Strap on a JTOW..................


4 posted on 12/30/2022 9:07:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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How much do we pay NASA to default to SpaceX for anything that has to reach orbit? Elon is at least a fair negotiator which is evident by his enormously vast wealth and lack of prison time.


7 posted on 12/30/2022 9:11:41 AM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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Here’s one idea, how about you hire non woke engineers who care about competently doing their jobs and don’t complain about how unfair they are being treated or how oppressed they are.


9 posted on 12/30/2022 9:14:16 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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Musk used ion thrusters on his Starlink satellites. Perhaps he can get one on the Hubble so it doesn’t need to be boosted so often?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MEPWsdo-UE


12 posted on 12/30/2022 9:20:40 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: BenLurkin

but you don’t get a cent unless you are Mega Diverse


17 posted on 12/30/2022 10:26:07 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: BenLurkin

Use Brandon, he is loaded with hot air!


19 posted on 12/30/2022 10:39:53 AM PST by Muhammy
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First, understand that aerodynamic drag changes at the square of the change in velocity. That means drag increases exponentially with speed, and Hubble is going about 17,000 mph. At those kinds of speeds even tiny amounts of gas eventually will cause a decay of orbital velocity.

Second, there are traces of gas well outside what is regarded as the limits of earth's atmosphere. Geosynchronous orbit is a little above 22,000 miles (Hubble is less that 400 miles) and there's enough gas floating around -- even at that altitude -- that the satellites in Geosync need the occasional boost.

Space junk that's too big to de-orbit gets thrown out to "graveyard" orbit, 22,400 miles, about 180 miles beyond geosync. Even space junk that's in "graveyard" orbit eventually will fall back to earth, but in some cases that isn't predicted to happen for millions of years. Nonetheless, even that high, eventually aerodynamic and gravity wave drag will bring them back to earth.

I guess NASA is counting on Future Man to have a landing net big enough to catch them when they eventually come home.

The deal with Hubble is that NASA was ready to pull the plug and let it de-orbit, particularly with Webb now on station. But Hubble isn't entirely obsolete (and Webb can't be looking everywhere at once) so this in part is as much an experiment for its own sake as it is an effort to keep Hubble in service.

No doubt they'll use a Hohmann transfer to boost Hubble. That means they won't push vertically, they'll push horizontally, sideways. As the satellite gets faster it naturally goes higher (centripetal force).

Orbits by nature tend to be elliptical (Kepler's first law of orbital motion) and special measures have to be taken to make them more nearly circular (a circle is a special case of an ellipse). Hubble's current orbit is very nearly (but not entirely) circular and if they want the new orbit to be circular, too, it will take two boosts because the new orbit initially will be elliptical. It will take a second boost, with firing beginning when the satellite is at the point in the new orbit that's furthest away from earth (at apogee),

The initial boost begins at apogee for the old orbit, which becomes perigee for the new orbit (labeled point P) and establishes an elliptical orbit through a new apogee (point A). If they feel the need, a second firing at Point A can give them back Hubble's original nearly circular orbit.

21 posted on 12/30/2022 11:46:05 AM PST by Paal Gulli (The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing.)
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To: BenLurkin

How about a step ladder?


22 posted on 12/30/2022 12:26:51 PM PST by Zathras
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This will give you some idea of the scales of the altitudes of the different orbits.


23 posted on 12/30/2022 1:40:46 PM PST by Paal Gulli (The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing.)
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