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Ukraine dismantles statue of hailed Russian empress Catherine the Great who invaded Crimea nearly 250 years before Vladimir Putin ordered his troops over the border
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 29, 2022 | Stewart Carr

Posted on 12/29/2022 4:19:13 AM PST by C19fan

Council workers in a Ukrainian port city have torn down a monument to Russian empress Catherine the Great after a public vote to get rid of it.

The statue of Catherine II, also known as Catherine the Great, was erected in 1900 in Odessa to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the city's founding.

The local authority organized an online vote on the fate of the monument.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: blueandyellowpompoms; democult; russia; ukienutburgers; ukraine
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Uhh....Odessa was founded by Catherine the Great in 1794 after the Russians kicked the Ottoman Turks out. Looks like the Ukrainians are just as ignorant as us Americans. Those Ukrainians sure have adopted the latest and greatest trends from the West.
1 posted on 12/29/2022 4:19:13 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Taliban Part Deux.

2 posted on 12/29/2022 4:23:24 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Looks like the Ukrainians are just as ignorant as us Americans.

No its just you that is ignorant. Catherine turned her attention to organizing and strengthening a system that she herself had condemned as inhuman. She imposed serfdom on the Ukrainians who had until then been free.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Catherine-the-Great

3 posted on 12/29/2022 4:26:56 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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So Ukraine would rather have been ruled by the Turks?


4 posted on 12/29/2022 4:28:04 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Maybe part of the Great Reset is the destruction of culture and history.

Remember those Bible clingers?…
Confederate soldiers?
Spanish explorers?


5 posted on 12/29/2022 4:30:01 AM PST by EEGator
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To: C19fan

They could have President Dr. Oz now…


6 posted on 12/29/2022 4:30:38 AM PST by EEGator
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How were peasants treated when Ukraine was under the thumb of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?


7 posted on 12/29/2022 4:31:01 AM PST by C19fan
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Yup... But they probably needed serfdom and she needed wheat.


8 posted on 12/29/2022 4:32:53 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: C19fan
The Wayz of the West


9 posted on 12/29/2022 4:32:59 AM PST by JonPreston
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They were likely treated like most peasants are... Badly!


10 posted on 12/29/2022 4:34:01 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: EEGator

You left off 19th century white male mathematicians and 20th century white male physicists.


11 posted on 12/29/2022 4:37:15 AM PST by AndyJackson
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It’s pretty much all white males of history.
Wouldn’t want those non whites getting their feelings hurt…


12 posted on 12/29/2022 4:40:01 AM PST by EEGator
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So Ukraine would rather have been ruled by the Turks?

Catherine imposed serfdom in ALL parts of Ukraine, areas where the peasants were free, in the former Cossack Hetmanate.

During the reign of Catherine II of Russia, the Cossack Hetmanate's autonomy was progressively destroyed. After several earlier attempts, the office of hetman was finally abolished by the Russian government in 1764, and his functions were assumed by the Little Russian Collegium, thus fully incorporating the Hetmanate into the Russian Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_Hetmanate

13 posted on 12/29/2022 4:40:32 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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She imposed serfdom on the Ukrainians who had until then been free.

Well, not FREE free. Slaves as a matter of fact.

Ukrainian past: Turkish sultan's harem was once full of kidnapped ... The Ottoman Turkish Empire on the other side has always been the largest buyer and old customer of the slave trade of the Crimean Khanate. In the one hundred and fifty years between 1500 and 1650 alone, more than one million Orthodox Slavs (mostly Ukrainians) were sold across the Ottoman Empire, according to tax records from Kaffa.

Let's face it, the whole region, russians, uses, and turks are a garbage people. We should let them all kill each other. The world will be better off. Good riddance.

14 posted on 12/29/2022 4:42:26 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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This is not an easy call. We have seen attempts to erase history in our own country. It’s a very disturbing trend.

On the other hand, Catherine was a Russian monarch. And Ukraine is no longer part of Russia. In a way, it would be like Virginia taking down an old statue of Queen Anne during the War of 1812.

Quite understandable.


16 posted on 12/29/2022 4:54:07 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Well, not FREE free. Slaves as a matter of fact.

The Hetmanate had free peasants and before Catherine an autonomous region under the Russian protectorate. During the reign of Catherine II of Russia, the Cossack Hetmanate's autonomy was progressively destroyed. After several earlier attempts, the office of hetman was finally abolished by the Russian government in 1764, and his functions were assumed by the Little Russian Collegium, thus fully incorporating the Hetmanate into the Russian Empire.


17 posted on 12/29/2022 4:54:38 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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"russians, ukes, and turks are a garbage people."

So that is where the phrase "white trash" comes from!

18 posted on 12/29/2022 4:55:52 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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The Hetmanate had free peasants and before Catherine an autonomous region under the Russian protectorate.

Except for all those uke slaves.

19 posted on 12/29/2022 4:55:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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The Ukrainians and Americans don’t know and don’t care. If we had any historical perspective at all, we would never have had anything to do with this conflict.

But then, it was never about the “conflict,” real or imagined, but about protecting the interests of the Biden crime family and the leftist EU through strategic media use of their corrupt, idiot-puppet Zelensky. Backed up with billions of our money and the clearly disposable lives of thousands of Ukrainians.

I see that Blackrock is already working on a multi-billion dollar deal for “rebuilding” the Ukraine once they feel they’ve gotten all the mileage they can out of this “conflict.” It’s going to be a cash cow for the Dems, our corporate left and probably the Biden family in particular for years into the future.


20 posted on 12/29/2022 4:58:11 AM PST by livius
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