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Apple faces class-action lawsuit alleging ‘racial bias’ in watch’s blood oximeter
N Y Post ^ | 27 Dec 2022 | Paul Best

Posted on 12/27/2022 3:41:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A New York man filed a class-action lawsuit against Apple on Dec. 24, alleging that the Apple Watch’s blood oximeter has a “racial bias” against individuals with darker skin tones.

“Blood Oxygen app measurements are not intended for medical use, including self-diagnosis or consultation with a doctor,” Apple writes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Not a question of AAPL being woke, simply AAPL has some cash and others want it.
1 posted on 12/27/2022 3:41:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT
It seems to me a watch would first measure the reflection of any skin to detect the degree of melanin any individual has as a control to adjust by that factor for any pulse detected.   This lawsuit is probably bogus.
2 posted on 12/27/2022 4:05:10 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No comment.


3 posted on 12/27/2022 4:11:22 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

—”No comment.”

Is that a regular no-comment comment or perhaps a secret dog whistle no-comment?

Nothing is coming on my secret decoder ring???


4 posted on 12/27/2022 4:24:31 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Dog whistle.


5 posted on 12/27/2022 4:36:05 PM PST by EEGator
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe Apple can blame it on their slave labor.


6 posted on 12/27/2022 4:37:31 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I actually use Pulse Oximetry...all the time.

They are accurate... when used correctly.

Although blood flow can make it difficult to get true numbers....

And technique in getting the true number is a skill.

7 posted on 12/27/2022 4:56:52 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I say analog watches exhibit a racial bias.

Sue the UK, for Big Ben.

And the Swiss, for CooKoo Clocks.

We Will get equity, come heck or rising sea levels.


8 posted on 12/27/2022 5:45:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Ya can't be woke enough, because there is no such thing as woke enough.

9 posted on 12/27/2022 5:58:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Every nurse in the world should be in trouble then, as they laud how easy it is to find a vein in my pasty white arm skin for a blood draw, but have a more difficult time with my black son’s dark brown arm skin.


10 posted on 12/27/2022 6:53:47 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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I read that Daylight Savings Time is racist. It never ends.


11 posted on 12/27/2022 6:56:41 PM PST by Stevenfo
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I read that Daylight Savings Time is racist.

It is. That's part of the reason we moved to Arizona.
12 posted on 12/27/2022 7:03:32 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: Osage Orange

It works best when you point the laser at the nail in my case. I am thinking the melanin content of finger tips and nail beds are identically pink in all races.


13 posted on 12/27/2022 7:31:16 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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Well...that's not been my experience.

Of course...some people are just hard to get a SPO2. Distal PB might not be great...for whatever reasons.

..Then there is which / what digit can make a difference to....

The best place is the ear lobe...IMO. But not always.....

14 posted on 12/27/2022 8:42:09 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A simple search shows that pulse oximeters of all types are less effective and accurate on darker skin. Simply put, the technology used involves passing of light through the skin. If the skin is darker, harder to pass light through.

Apple has deep pockets so some ambulance chasers go after them.


15 posted on 12/27/2022 8:45:19 PM PST by gunnut
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To: Osage Orange

The ring finger is best for me, followed by the middle one. Haven’t tried the ear lobe.


16 posted on 12/27/2022 8:46:00 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: Glad2bnuts
I'm guessing you have a finger probe...

I'm a RRT...sometimes...

And I have ways to get a SPO2....that I'm assuming you don't.

17 posted on 12/27/2022 8:50:57 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange

Don’t know what SPO2 is.


18 posted on 12/28/2022 10:06:10 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: Glad2bnuts
In laymans terms....here ya go..

SpO2, also known as oxygen saturation, is a measure of the amount of oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in the blood relative to the amount of hemoglobin not carrying oxygen.

The body needs there to be a certain level of oxygen in the blood or it will not function as efficiently.

In fact, very low levels of SpO2 can result in very serious symptoms.

19 posted on 12/28/2022 10:16:54 AM PST by Osage Orange
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A US government study confirms most face recognition systems are racist
December 2019
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/12/20/79/ai-face-recognition-racist-us-government-nist-study/

I bet a shovel is racist, too, if you look at it from the Left angle.


20 posted on 12/28/2022 10:39:20 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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