Posted on 12/20/2022 1:59:12 AM PST by Cathi
🇷🇺IL RUSSO🇷🇺, [12/20/2022 3:32 AM]
💥💥💥In the Kyiv region the situation remains critical, with no electricity in 80% of the region.
More Macgregor foolishness.
Whose stopping anybody from leaving Kyiv?
Good old Travis, justifying and excusing Russian conquering, genocide, and annexation of independent Ukraine and its 44 million people.
Evacuate or freeze? Kyiv braces for worst case of a winter without power
Even before I saw this article I’ve been thinking about the war there. Specifically the very worst possible outcome (besides it spreading into a wider war).
Which would be the detestation of Ukraine, complete loss of its sovereignty , the bleeding white of it’s young male population , coupled with massive debt from Western nations, food shortages and increased inflation.
Then Russia wins anyway, Which is a distinct possibility. From day one this administration should have used more diplomacy and tried to seek an agreement with Russia.
“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f... things up.”‘
—Barack Obama
After 10 months of invasion, the only russian 'victory' is how much of Kyiv has or hasn't electricity. Pretty sad
Washington wants to partner with Putin on a new Trump policy busting Iran deal. The facts are all sitting right in front of our faces. Ignore them if you wish.
Sure, I hear Kyiv will surrender any day now due to lack of electricity.
Russia can’t win so it’s useful idiot propagandists insist Ukraine must surrender. It such a typically Bolshevik gaslighting campaigning. Sadly, some weak and defeated American conservatives are so broken by domestic politics that they end up believing these Kremlin lies.
Right, all the press in Kyiv missed all the military checkpoints stopping people from leaving Kyiv. Okay
It’s a tragedy; no doubt about it.
Great Moon of Alabama article:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/ukraine-is-there-really-a-change-of-the-narrative.html#more
Sullivan: “We don’t know when this is going to end up. What we do know is that it is our job to continue to sustain our military support to Ukraine so that they are in their best possible position on the battlefield, that if and when diplomacy is ripe, they will be in the best possible position at the negotiating table.”
“That moment is not ripe now, and so, as a result, we’ve gone to Congress and asked for a substantial amount of further resources to be able to continue to ensure that Ukraine has the means to fight this war. We’re confident we will get bipartisan support for that… “
General Zaluzhny’s request:
“I know that I can beat this enemy. But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs, 500 Howitzers. Then, I think it is completely realistic to get to the lines of February 23rd.”
Bhadrakumar: “Therefore, in the prevailing circumstances, Russia’s option narrows down to inflicting a crushing defeat on Ukraine in the coming months and installing a government in Kiev that is not under Washington’s control. But that requires a fundamental shift in the Russian military strategy, which would factor in the real possibility of a confrontation with the US and NATO at some point.”
“At the start of the war Ukraine had, at least on paper, a well equipped military”
Ukraine has a lot of tanks and is ranked 13th across the globe with 2,430. In terms of armored vehicles, Kiev also ranks high, occupying the seventh spot globally with 11,435. Kiev’s artillery power is also formidable at 2,040 batteries.”
“That General Zaluzhny requested all that new stuff is a confession that most if not all the old stuff is gone. That includes the weapons he received after the war started. If the 20 percent of the Russian military that was used in Ukraine could do so much material damage in such a short time how long would a NATO army in a war against Russia survive?”
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Sounds like the American plan is to finance tens of thousands of more Ukrainian soldiers deaths until Ukraine is “in their best possible position on the battlefield, that if and when diplomacy is ripe, they will be in the best possible position at the negotiating table.”
Gawd life is cheap...:-(
bkmk
"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."
Putin is channeling Stalin, and desperately wants to succeed where Stalin failed
Never forget that modern-day Russian culture is largely derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century. They never really left.
If Western Civ is to survive, it must make it clear to Putin and his successors that such racial aggressions will be resisted without limit. We taught this lesson to Germany, now it's Russia's turn.
Right, like russians would hesitate shelling cities because of civilians.
This is what's left of Mariupol after Russians came to "liberate" it
It’s Kiev, not Kyiv, and the article discusses evacuation. Please keep up.
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