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To: gas_dr; Radix; grey_whiskers; Tilted Irish Kilt; All

It would help if we could understand all you have written. For example what is: line 1) “beer heart”, line 2) “see seer”, line 3) “screaming” and “ards”.

Yes, blood transfusions have always been risky, especially when the blood is being bought by paying people in difficulty money to give up their blood. How healthy is that kind of blood? The parents did consent to the procedure, after the approval of their unvaxed donor was delayed until the infant was at severe risk of death with more delay.

Over 60 years ago I was in charge of maintaining and cleaning the heart/lung machine we used for open heart surgery on dogs at NIH. This was the basic research on Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, and drugs and their effect on these dog’s hearts and heart rhythm. They were not restored to life after the surgery. I am not aware of any new nonECMO way of managing the blood circulation during open heart surgery. Any time the blood is removed from the body and contained in something else there is risk involved. Pristine sanitation at all stages in starting, maintaining, and stopping ECMO is mandatory. What is OPCAB?


198 posted on 12/17/2022 10:41:45 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin; bagster
Beer heart is me on Saturday nights. I prefer porters and stouts.

See seer is what you say when you're lecturing your favorite epidemiologist for predicting a worldwide catastrophe over COVID-1984 which never materializes, but missing the harm from the clot shots.

Screaming is what $hot $hill$ do when each new scientific paper or news story about harms from the clot shots come out.

Ards is acute respiratory distress syndrome: the thing they tried to use ventilators on but that failed.

200 posted on 12/17/2022 11:02:34 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: gleeaikin

Mostly fat fingers and little keyboard on iPhone. ARDS Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. Defined as Pa/Fi of oxygen gradient <200:1

OPCAB off pump CABG. Not at lot of fun to anesthetize. My guess is that this operation (chick was airlifted to academic center or at least a tertiary care center with peds hearts) with RVDO and TEF requires pretty emergent surgery. It’s not like this was a elective knee replacement.

As for the rest of it. There is zero evidence as to vaccinated donors causing prothrombotic events. The real issue here is there was probably a large femoral venous thrombosis because that is where they cannulate for venous drainage in pediatric pump cases. Grey Whiskers could not answer that question nor anyone else because the have zero idea what actually went on. There are about a million reasons for this kid to have thrombosis of the femoral veins and if it is correct although the parents interview is suspect extension to the IVC. The presence of MRSA either excludes in its entirety that this clot was caused by the transfusion or suggests MRSA septicemia was the cause. In either event it wasn’t the transfusion.

That is why I asked the questions I did to see if anyone out there actually understood what really happened. Everyone with an agenda stated this one case proves their theory beyond a doubt. It simply does not.

But disagree with it and the pseudo ministers of the faith call you a demonic sociopath. The reasons I ask the questions I do is to illustrate the lack of critical thinking and fundamental understanding of the fringe element (and yea they are fringe. Very few people are talking of pure bloods and he rest of the nonsense) as this is simply not an issue. Over a billion doses give to over 250 million people in America. Trust me. We’re this a clinical issue it would have been abundantly evident by now.


211 posted on 12/18/2022 6:11:43 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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