Posted on 12/16/2022 7:20:31 PM PST by NetAddicted
So you read the very real possibility that the pooled blood was unvaccinated. Hmmm. Seems tenuous.
You are using a result that is at best questionable to drive a nares ride that doesn’t exist.
I am fine with people seeking care consistent with their beliefs. If beliefs run contrary to allopathic evidence seek those treatments. I am perfectly fine with the parents seeking alternative treatment for tracheal esophageal fistula and double RV outlet. Have at it.
I truly have no difficulty if people want to seek other treatments than those we offer. I just wish they wouldn’t then come and seek our treatments and demand it their ways. People have a right to refuse or consent to treatment. They may or may not trust our advice or modalities
They do. It have the right to demand we bend to their wants if we find it contrary to our training or dangerous. It’s all good.
And you know this how? And it would have taken how long to get some (willing donor available/test it).
Sorry. If there is blame. It’s on them. Sorry it’s uncomfortable for you.
Oh, I'm not uncomfortable. I'm disgusted at the blatant disregard of the doctor who, like you, probably thought he knew best and the parents were know nothing kooks.
#DamnCivilians
Lawsuit for what. I am dying to hear the cause of action.
Maybe he doxxed them? He most certainly cloxxed them.
: )
Get off the interwebs and go read some updated medical journals. We shall meet again.
If you see the way that people who die are essentially treated like so much meat to push a narrative, it's not surprising.
So the parents could have withheld surgical consent pending banked blood from directed donors. Not a simple process cross match and acceptable compatibility in directed donations takes a fair amount of time. It’s not a 15 second procedure.
“Turns out, the entire process was relatively easy and inexpensive,” said Hertzler. However, as Bly pointed out to Clary, the hospital still “kept delaying and delaying on” providing the “paperwork to get directed donor blood.”
Thus, the paperwork was not processed in time for the parents to use the unvaccinated blood for a transfusion by the time of Alexander’s second operation.
The parents sought unjabbed blood and got intimidated out of it.
The very thing they feared, happened; by pretty much the mechanism they postulated.
Their baby died.
By pretty much the mechanism they feared.
The hospital lied through their foul teeth about "using unvaccinated blood from a directed donor would be very difficult and very expensive.
And instead of admitting that you resort to DARVO (deny, accuse, reverse victim and offender), and then blow a cloud of squid ink about "SCIENCE!"™ and "STANDARD OF CARE!"™ and basically accusing the parents of being uneducated hicks wanting to use dangerous folklore remedies instead of "REAL MEDICINE!"™ WHEN ALL THEY WANTED TO DO IS CHANGE *WHO* DONATED THE BLOOD, KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME.
You are a lying piece of slime and beneath contempt.
Troll.
Good to know, thanks for posting.
White Coat Army sticks together..
If any Minutemen are angry enough, they’ll get the Red Coat treatment..
You tell a compelling story and then conclude that Thor bang does by the mechanism they feared. You leave no room for error in your pronouncement.
The chances that clot as described in the timelines indicated came from vaccinated blood is essentially zero. Based on all the evidence of millions of transfused units from nearly a billion doses without incident. You can provide no response to this
Do me a favor. Research extracorporeal circulation in neonatal cardiac surgery and get back to me. Please comment on the degree of coagulation with this technique and risk for thrombus.
This child died from severe anatomical deficiencies even with heroic surgical intervention. Look the the incidence of death for this pathology and this disease.
Weigh that against the evidence. Draw a conclusion. Then we can talk.
Try to be a little curious instead of making every narrative for your agenda. For example the reported who died at the World Cup that everyone of certain beliefs ran out and called PROOF of another vaccine death — was a ruptured aneurysm. I just wonder at what point we hear how good tasting the egg on face is when this happens — which is more often than not
If being a troll is called questioning what appears to be bull crap
Then I am guilty as charged.
A veiled call for violence is still a call for violence.
Well well..... the doctors are “baffled” I’m sure.
Let’s see how FR’s fake doctors reply to this with their usual satanically inspired evil tripe.
They may as well be abortion doctors with their attitude.
This country has a history of people in Coats getting shot..
That’s not a threat.
That’s a history lesson..
So far, White Coats have only lost their benefit of doubt and their status as honest brokers..
Like the govt..
Talk to the doctors AT THAT HOSPITAL.
From the article YOU SUGGESTED I READ:
While the surgery itself did not require blood, Dr. Eleane Beadle determined that Alexander needed a blood transfusion the next day due to low hemoglobin levels.“Instead of waiting a few more days for the blood we had donated to be fully processed and available,” the doctor used blood from a general blood bank for the transfusion, Bly told Clary.<
Wikins has pointed out that Washington “had a 70% fully-vaccinated population by February 1, 2022, with 79% receiving at least one injection,” and so “there was a near 80% chance Alexander got vaxxed blood.”
The doctor “found the blood clot within a few hours after he got the transfusion,” Hertzler told Clary on Thursday.
Hertzler said that while previously, the doctors had told them that “blood clots are very rare” in a case like Alexander’s, after he got a blood clot, they said, “Well, this happens. But…it’s something a blood thinner can fix.”
“And the blood thinners — they had him on the highest dose they could give an infant. And it did nothing. [The clot] just kept growing really fast,” she went on.
Hertzler believes that if the clot had been “normal,” then blood thinners would have helped dissolve it. She said that, “given our understanding” of the findgs of abnormal clots in the vaxxed deceased, “we know that it’s not a normal blood clot.”
Got that? The blood clot wasn't during the second surgery.
The transfusion was given a day AFTER the surgery, due to low hemoglobin.
The clot came AFTER THE TRANSFUSION, not right after the surgery.
And to bolster that last point, the ATTENDING PHYSICIAN said *prior to the procedure* that blood clots were very low in a case like the now dead-baby's situation.
So again, it's not a case of "ignorant rube speaking like a medieval peasant about matters they don't know anything about".
It's a case of the attending doctors in the case (so you can't argue, well, physicians can shoot of their mouths, a remote commenter isn't really familiar with all the facts of the case) saying "blood clots are very rare".
And the clot happening not during or immediately after the procedure itself, but after the later transfusion.
Where the hospital pressured and lied to the parents it would be too difficult and too costly to use a directed donor.
Oh yeah, just to remind you again.
YOUR article, which YOU told me to read before commenting.
Troll.
So tell me this. What is the procedure for cross match and accessible compatibility in a directed donation, which is so much more onerous that "give me three units of blood of type (blah blah, preferably O-negative) from the hospital blood bank" ?
You're just blowing smoke and we all know it.
FReepmail.
This is the article presented
Acute blood loss anemia occurs in the perioperative period
We would need to know the hemoglobin and venous saturation of the baby at the time the decision of transfusion was made to assess if it were necessary.
Having personal knowledge of this procedure and having seen it done (congenital heart surgery and thoracic surgery) you are jumping to conclusions that are superficial.
So to clarify you are of the opinion that transfusion 24 hours post mediastinotomy and thoracotomy in a neonate may not be urgent 94 emergent? You believe this transfusion could have waited? I would life to understand the evidence around that statement.
Additionally you are telling me that the child has no clots prior to the transfusion. There is evidence of same? Perhaps understanding how the vascular tree is cannulared for structural heart surgery in addition to heparinization and protamine reversal will help you ask the proper questions
The really question of concern here is why was there MRSA on the thrombus.
You have all the right answers to All the wrong questions.
I was in triage for gut pain in WA. Incredibly tense situation from avoided conversations that wanted to take place but can’t. One nurse had no idea of blood clots from CoVID, so I suggested she search ‘Covid clots autopsies’. When the physician was alone in the room with me I mentioned the time the spikes last in the liver was much shorter than assumed, and that the mRNA in the liver cell could affect the DNA in the nucleus, resulting in reverse DNA transcription. A second paper showed multiple weaknesses in the argument, with references to address them.
Now I need to contact my WA physician and see if he will try to save my life, or be part of culling the herd.
Got it. Thank you so much. See FReepmail reply.
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