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Posted on 12/13/2022 3:57:49 AM PST by DFG
The Kansas Board of Regents is considering stripping specific university math requirements after it was found that a significant percentage of college freshmen fail algebra, NPR affiliate KCUR reported.
The Regents, who oversee the system’s six public universities, are considering implementing the Math Pathways approach which matches students to a math course based on their major instead of mandating algebra for all incoming students. While many universities require that all freshmen pass algebra as a prerequisite for graduation, one in three Kansas students reportedly fail the course, which could delay a student’s graduation.
Daniel Archer, vice president of academic affairs for the Kansas Board of Regents, said that algebra is not always necessary for many students. Only 20 percent of majors require higher-level math beyond algebra, KCUR reported.
“We’re sending the majority of students down the college algebra road, which is really not necessary,” Archer said. “It’s not practical. It’s not really needed. And it’s not relevant for their fields.”
he Math Pathways approach offers students the option of taking alternatives to algebra such as statistics and quantitative reasoning, according to its 2018 brief. Its summary claims that algebra is a “gatekeeper to higher education for students not majoring in a math-heavy field.”
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Is that a Roman rod or Imperial?
Also, is the swallow laden or unladen?
Demographics.
I went to university just about 10 years ago.
Math classes had fewer and fewer people as we escalated up.
College Algebra, Trigonometry, Pre-Calc, Calc I, II, & III, Differential Equations, Abstract Algebra, Boolean Algebra, and engineering courses which were Math based.
The classes were vastly white male, with a group of international Asian students.
Yes, you have, or you'd have never been able to plan a job or bill for materials.
I don’t suppose it occurred to them to teach ‘em algebra.
I failed Math 105 at FSU and finally passed with a “D” on the second go around after extensive tutoring by my roommate who took Trigonometry for a quick “A”. Later I had to help her pass Government 107 which I hardly bothered to go to class for and still got a “ B”. I got one “C” in the Master’s program. Statistics”. Calculators were the best invention evah! 😉
Anyone that can't solve for X is a complete dumba$$.
Algebra teaches kids to think logically.
The problem with the uneducated simpletons, ones that can’t do basic math, is they don’t know how stupid they are.
maff is hard yo
The dumbing down of America is getting worse. Next, the Dems will cancel school completely.
“I graduated High School in 1975. I had already taken Pre-Calculus & Trigonometry.”
I graduated high school in 1977:
9th grade — Algebra
10th grade — Geometry/Pre-Calculus
11th grade — Trigonometry/AP Calculus I
12th grade — Statistics/AP Calculus II
This will be the subject of much study in future generations. Some yet-to-born Gibbon will write a large volume on the decline of western civilization.
southernerwithanattitude: “Master Plumber for 45 years”
NorthMountain:
“1) This article is about people in college, a category which does not include you. With all due respect, your experience is not relevant.
2) Algebra requires (and teaches) abstract, logical thinking. People who cannot think logically and in the abstract are really unfit for self-governance.
3) I have found knowledge of languages other than English useful for two reasons. Such knowledge provides insight into the origins and correct meaning of English words. Such knowledge has also given some insight into cultures other than my own, and an understanding of why some people do the things they do. If this is of no value to you, personally, that’s fine. But again, College (and even High School) isn’t for everybody.”
With zero respect to you: You are full of sh*t, and you are not a college graduate. You do not understand Algebra nor college. You place college on a pedestal where it does not belong. Algebra is a teenager course, not a college course. College starts at Calculus I, Differential Calculus. Only the liberal arts degrees, created to satisfy liberals, teach High School level courses like Algebra. Remedial math courses like Algebra taught in a college means the students are not qualified to be in college. The dumbing down of America started in colleges, and courses like Algebra being taught in college is all we need to know.
For your edification, since you obviously are without an education, a master plumber uses more Algebra, and other math forms, in a single day than you and 99% of the people use all year. You owe ‘southernerwithanattitude’ an apology for your ignorant insults.
You claim in your second stupid point that only those people who do Algebra are fit for self-governance. The founding fathers of this nation would knock you off your high horse.
You talk like such a stupid little girl I think I probably have more years of education in math and sciences than you have been alive.
CodeToad, PhD.
Field hands in a Workers Paradise don’t need algebra.
Typical dimmocommie way of dealing with failure; eliminate the standards. How does that help our society? It just degenerates into a bunch of shambling drooling morons without any usable skills.
Very good points.
We would be better off having a general agreement on what a university should be about. With “free” government money available, what we currently call “universities “ will continue to lower their standards to get the money.
State legislatures need the backbone to set basic standards for universities versus trade schools. Today’s “university degree” is already virtually worthless. This sort of standard-lowering is destroying it further. Maintaining a university system has become a waste of state tax money.
You don’t downgrade to stupid. If the kids are not college material, then it’s adios.
Same here. After I got the knack of geometry thermos, math was easy.
“We’re sending the majority of students down the college algebra road, which is really not necessary,” Archer said. “It’s not practical. It’s not really needed. And it’s not relevant for their fields.”So says a man, VP Academic Affairs, who clearly has not done the math. If he did, he'd realize that four years of gender studies plus low pay = bad math.
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