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Bell Textron’s Valor wins Army’s Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft competition to replace Black Hawk
breakingdefense.com ^ | December 05, 2022 | Ashley Roque

Posted on 12/05/2022 2:54:57 PM PST by BenLurkin

After years of development, prototyping and test flights, the Army today announced that Bell Textron’s Valor tiltrotor has won its Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft (FLRAA) competition to be the successor to the aging UH-60 Black Hawk and a key component of the Army’s future force.

The announcement gives Bell a massive victory not just in America but with the global community of 28 Black Hawk operators, many of whom are likely to follow the US Army’s lead when looking for a replacement in the future.

The exact requirements the service laid out for the aircraft remain closely held, but allowed the companies to produce two strikingly different designs: Bell’s tiltrotor Valor aircraft against Sikorsky-Boeing’s coaxial rotor Defiant X.


The V-280 Valor comes in for a roll-on landing during its first public flight demonstration at Bell's Amarillo, Texas, production facility. (Jen Judson/Staff)

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1 posted on 12/05/2022 2:54:57 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting machine, but I can assure that politics was a significant factor considered by the Pentagon.


2 posted on 12/05/2022 3:01:59 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: BenLurkin
Sure is different, and way more complicated, from relatively simple Hueys.

“Helicopter: A million parts rapidly rotating around an oil leak waiting for metal fatigue to set in”

3 posted on 12/05/2022 3:02:58 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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To: BenLurkin

A tilt rotor design? Myriad mechanical problems and more dangerous to land than a helicopter with a centrally located rotor.


4 posted on 12/05/2022 3:03:41 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: BenLurkin
Here's the Defiant X:


5 posted on 12/05/2022 3:04:12 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: Flick Lives

Yup.

Te more moving parts, the more things that can - AND WILL - go wrong.


6 posted on 12/05/2022 3:06:30 PM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! R)
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To: airborne

My SIL, former Army intelligence says the Apache helicopter design causes it to eat their transmissions.


7 posted on 12/05/2022 3:09:28 PM PST by Nachoman (Following victory, its best to reload.)
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To: Flick Lives

“A tilt rotor design? Myriad mechanical problems and more dangerous to land than a helicopter with a centrally located rotor.”

Osprey.....paging Mr. Osprey.....please pick up the red courtesy phone.
What could possibly go wrong? :(


8 posted on 12/05/2022 3:09:58 PM PST by Salty Longshanks
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To: oldplayer

It’s fast and more redundant than a true rotary bird. Can fly with one engine driving both shafts. Better range.

It can also be armored up and armed akin to an A-10.


9 posted on 12/05/2022 3:11:15 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BenLurkin
The exact requirements the service laid out for the aircraft remain closely held...

I wonder what Radar Cross Section (RCS) is required by the system spec.

It appears to me that Bell Textron’s Valor is stealthier than the Sikorsky-Boeing Defiant X.

10 posted on 12/05/2022 3:13:22 PM PST by FtrPilot
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To: Salty Longshanks

This fixes a lot of the osprey issues.

Notably the engines are fixed while the drive shafts rotate. A driveshaft runs through the middle, so either engine can run the bird by itself.

2400 mile range at 350 mph.


11 posted on 12/05/2022 3:14:06 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: llevrok

The tragedy is that most helicopters do not need to be this complicated or have nearly the suite of avionics that they put on them.

At it’s heart it is a flying truck. Think how many more we could have if they would follow this maxim.

Thanks to “lobbyist” and the revolving door from the pentagon to high paying defense industry jobs it is a rotary F-22 and everyone builds something fancy to put on it.


12 posted on 12/05/2022 3:14:20 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yep, I preferred the “more conventional” (relatively) “Defiant X”:

https://www.boeing.com/features/innovation-quarterly/2021/04/defiant-x.page

(Sikorsky-Boeing)


13 posted on 12/05/2022 3:14:42 PM PST by Drago
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To: FtrPilot

Agree. Especially when the props are forward.

V tail.


14 posted on 12/05/2022 3:15:13 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Flick Lives

“A tilt rotor design? Myriad mechanical problems and more dangerous to land than a helicopter with a centrally located rotor.”

But faster and with a much greater range.


15 posted on 12/05/2022 3:17:34 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: All; Drago

Video of “Defiant X” flying:

https://youtu.be/tVOzZnjVBww


16 posted on 12/05/2022 3:17:39 PM PST by Drago
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To: oldplayer

“Interesting machine, but I can assure that politics was a significant factor considered by the Pentagon.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

“10% for the Big Guy!”


17 posted on 12/05/2022 3:18:40 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Jewbacca

After looking at the posted image in it’s original size, I see what you mean. However, that’s still one hell of a lot of moving parts, and doesn’t solve the problem of transitioning from vertical, to horizontal flight which was the downfall of many of the Ospreys, and many of our servicemen, and women.


18 posted on 12/05/2022 3:23:17 PM PST by Salty Longshanks
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To: Salty Longshanks

Osprey crash on carrier deck due to one of the rotors being over the deck end losing lift due to rotor wash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGVpFmOShAg


19 posted on 12/05/2022 3:25:23 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: BenLurkin

Will troops drop out the bottom like in the movie “Edge of Tomorrow”?


20 posted on 12/05/2022 3:25:56 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Baruch Ha Ba Ba Shem Adonai!)
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