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To: Cronos

Any advanced civilisation would have machines and metallurgy

You know that for a fact? It an assumption. Until recently there was a lot of evidence that sound could be used to move objects, but most was lost or in the case of China deliberately destroyed during the Great Leap Backwards.

Even to this day many megalithic structures have an affinity for certain harmonics and specific frequencies. Notability in the Great Pyramid and a few other well know monuments.

It is also well known that over time, especially in antiquity, quarried stone, metals were sought after, recycled and repurposed. So metal object - tools etc are rare.

Further, prior to the Younger Dryas, sea levels were on average 400 feet lower. Any prior civilization would have favored the land on the oceans and river mouths, not burred under hundreds of feet of water and silt.

So there could easily have been a prior civilization that used sound to move things, could have built with stone, glass, and copper - which would be long gone or be unrecognizable after 12,000 years.

Remember, Hancock says we are a species with amnesia. And any huge trauma would certainly have meant that any civilizational aspects were lost to the needs of sheer survival.

So we go around making theories that fit our preconceptions, ignoring any thing outlying and viola! Climate Change! When in fact the only real climate change happened 12,800 years ago.


35 posted on 12/04/2022 11:40:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

“Until recently there was a lot of evidence that sound could be used to move objects”

Err.. what?


39 posted on 12/04/2022 11:44:37 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: PIF

“Even to this day many megalithic structures have an affinity for certain harmonics and specific frequencies. Notability in the Great Pyramid and a few other well know monuments.”

Can you share any links or shite papers on these please?


41 posted on 12/04/2022 11:45:24 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: PIF

“It is also well known that over time, especially in antiquity, quarried stone, metals were sought after, recycled and repurposed. So metal object - tools etc are rare”

You would find traces of these quarries, which we don’t.

And there would always be one or two tools left, lost, but we don’t fing anything of that sort.

Can you share information about this “moving items with sound”?

Btw, copper would be found, so would stone. But we don’t have any of this


45 posted on 12/04/2022 11:47:55 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: PIF

The last ice age was a 60 thousand year epoch that literally scraped away any evidence of civilization in the northern hemisphere. If there were any cities and evidence of anything “advanced” beyond hunter gatherer, they would have been ground into powder.

Then, the rapid heating of the earth would have caused a deluge that would have washed away anything that was left.

I don’t think a lot of people comprehend what earth was like 15,000 years ago. The Oceans were significantly lower than today—the water was tied up in the glaciers. Waterfront meant something a lot different than today.

As the humans coming out of the ice age were pretty much the humans of today—there is no reason to believe “we” weren’t around in pretty big numbers 70,000 years ago.

Ancient civilizations don’t mean airplanes and autos. It simply means organized groups, trade, and knowledge.


62 posted on 12/04/2022 12:46:05 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: PIF
stone, glass, and copper - which would be long gone or be unrecognizable after 12,000 years

Glass does not decompose. It is forever.

66 posted on 12/04/2022 12:52:46 PM PST by GingisK
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