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Attorney General Knudsen leads 18-state effort calling on UPS and FedEx to clarify gun-purchase tracking polices
Montana Department of Justice ^ | November 29, 2022 | Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen

Posted on 12/02/2022 8:18:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot

HELENA – Seventeen state attorneys general joined Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen today in asking major shipping companies to clarify new policies that allow them to track firearm sales with unprecedented specificity and bypass warrant requirements to share that information with federal agencies.

Reports from Montana federal firearm license (FFL) holders made to Attorney General Knudsen’s office indicate that UPS and FedEx are now burdening them by requiring them to ship separately and track firearms, firearms parts, and firearm products so gun purchases can be tracked and retain documents about what specific items those shipments contain and make that information available to the companies upon request.

Knudsen and the coalition of attorneys general sent letters today to leadership at both companies requesting additional information on their new policies and the possibility that the effort was coordinated in part with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

“These demands, in tandem, allow [UPS/FedEx] to create a database of American gun purchasers and determine exactly what items they purchased… In doing so you, perhaps inadvertently, give federal agencies a workaround to normal warrant requirements. This allows [UPS/FedEx] to provide information at will or upon request to federal agencies—information detailing which Americans are buying what guns,” Attorney General Knudsen’s letters state. “Additionally, we recommend that you consider taking actions to limit potential liability moving forward, including the immediate cessation of any existing warrantless information sharing with federal agencies about gun shipments.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dojmt.gov ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS:
Brandon and ATF's back door gun registration scheme.
1 posted on 12/02/2022 8:18:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s time for competition. i.e. Gun shipping service that won’t reveal any information about it’s customers.


2 posted on 12/02/2022 8:21:14 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Navy Patriot

Back in 1968 I ordered a handgun from a company in another state. It came to me railway express in a box with red tape on it with the words “FIREARMS!” in big bold letters.
The shipping cost me as much as the handgun.

I mentioned this to a local gun dealer and he said I was lucky to get it. He said on such packages marked FIREARMS, the conductor would often throw such packages off the train to cars waiting at remote crossroads.

I should mention that this was before the 1968 gun control law signed by Lying Lyndon Johnson went into effect.


3 posted on 12/02/2022 8:26:57 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK in Facebook Jail for quoting a line from the Dean Martin movie "Rough Night In Jericho.")
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To: unixfox

I had to ship a firearm back to the company to have it worked on. When the shipper told me to declare what was in it, I simply wrote “Machine Parts”.


4 posted on 12/02/2022 8:29:06 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK in Facebook Jail for quoting a line from the Dean Martin movie "Rough Night In Jericho.")
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To: Navy Patriot

Also, Fedex and UPS will no longer allow individuals to ship gun parts, like barrels for example, which have no Federal shipment restrictions. All gun parts have to be shipped through an FFL.

USPS Priority mail is about the only way an individual can ship gun parts or guns without going through an FFL. I’ve never had anyone at the Post Office ask what I was shipping (beyond asking about batteries, fragile items, etc). Of course if I’m shipping an actual gun, I ship to an FFL and usaully have a copy of their FFL license in my pocket in case I’m asked.


5 posted on 12/02/2022 8:45:47 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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To: Navy Patriot

Attorney General Knudsen thinks crooks get guns at the gun shop clueless about how many come from over seas and the border cartels chuckle at stupidity.

Biden clown circus never closes


6 posted on 12/02/2022 8:53:02 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Thanks for taking me back to the Good Old Days!

I, and friends, have lived through similar experiences, when the general population considered Americans, in general, to be honest.

I remember when I could ship firearms that I OWNED back and forth to the manufacturer for service, repair or upgrade without problem or suspicion, but there was always that worry about the manufacturer's name being on the package.

7 posted on 12/02/2022 8:55:59 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

And plus make shipping costs for firearms prohibitive.


8 posted on 12/02/2022 8:57:49 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Vaduz
I think you misunderstand.

Attorney General Knudsen wants UPS and Fed Ex to stop cooperating with, and sending sensitive personal information to, the ATF Feds without the Feds obtaining the proper warrant from Court, as the Law Requires.

9 posted on 12/02/2022 9:05:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Asking major shipping companies to clarify new policies that allow them to track firearm sales.


10 posted on 12/02/2022 9:08:06 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Navy Patriot

SHIPPING METHOD (select one):
[_] Air
[_] Ground
[x] Canoe


11 posted on 12/02/2022 9:14:32 AM PST by SheepWhisperer ("Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but the provocations of a fool are heavier than both" PRO 27:3)
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To: Navy Patriot

Can’t imagine why the government is interested in legal shipments of firearms...


12 posted on 12/02/2022 9:28:43 AM PST by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Back in 1968 I ordered a handgun from a company in another state. It came to me railway express in a box with red tape on it with the words “FIREARMS!” in big bold letters.”

I remember back in the 60’s seeing the ads in Sports Afield for 20MM Solothurn antitank rifles. With ammo. Those were the days.


13 posted on 12/02/2022 9:45:38 AM PST by dljordan
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To: TheDon

Exactly. Diaper Joe stated that he has tanks, helicopters and nuclear devices so why are they worried about a person purchasing a gun?


14 posted on 12/02/2022 2:24:11 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: TheDon
Can’t imagine why the government is interested in legal shipments of firearms...

Me either, I know when it comes to protecting Second Amendment Constitutional Rights, the ATF is FAST and FURIOUS at any foreigners trying to violate them.

15 posted on 12/03/2022 11:00:31 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: dljordan
Those were the days.

Thanks for the reminder.

16 posted on 12/03/2022 11:02:57 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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