Posted on 11/26/2022 2:51:50 PM PST by Jonty30
Hyperion has unveiled their XP-1 hypercar, which is powered by a hydrogen fuel cell powertrain and has a total range of more than 1,000 miles. The Hypercar is expected to go into production this year and was spotted on the streets of Las Vegas in 2021. With this car, Hyperion plans to start a revolution in hydrogen-propulsion technology in the automobile industry.
The Hyperion XP-1 can be taken as a prime example of what a hydrogen-powered car can do. For those of you who haven’t heard about this manufacturer, they are new to the automotive business. Unlike other manufacturers using hybrid or fully electric powertrains, they have worked on creating a hydrogen fuel-cell hypercar that has 2000+ hp and a range of 1000+ miles.
I do not know if hydrogen is a ready replacement for hydrocarbons.
Basically, it’s an electric car that is powered by hydrogen.
It takes oxygen from the outside and mixes with hydrogen as it goes along and the exhaust is water.
Potentially, in my view, it’s a better replacement for gasoline than electric batters could ever be. It’s just a matter of whether they can lower the costs enough to mass produce these cars.
Of course I’m waiting for the 38th edition.
Now we know why they were pushing us into lithium EVs.
I’m surprised Hyperion didn’t go the way of Preston Tucker.
(I’m sure it’s not over yet)
Haven’t we done this before, with airships? That didn’t end well. ☹️
Serious question here. Is it reasonably possible to set up a hydrogen creating station at your home through electrolysis from water to create and store sufficient hydrogen to fuel your vehicle?
I think it is, because you’re just using electrolysis on water to break the bonds between oxygen and hydrogen. Anything big industry can do, you can do at home. It’s just a question as to whether or not you can do it in a cost effective measure or whether, at best, you can ensure a needed supply to top up your tank.
“Serious question here. Is it reasonably possible to set up a hydrogen creating station at your home through electrolysis from water to create and store sufficient hydrogen to fuel your vehicle?”
Anything’s possible, given enough money.
Fascinated how even though water vapor is an exponential greenhouse gas compared to gasoline exhaust this is considered superior.
The problem is storing hydrogen. A hydrogen converter of some sort is the true answer, but I have been saying this for ten years.
1,000 mile range?
I guess if the hydrogen tank blows up, you will go into space some 1,000 miles UP.
New astronauts in the making. ;)
My understanding, in regards to hydrogen, is that if the tank gets piereced, it will escape from the tank too quickly to have much of a reaction. It’s a gas, so it will assume the size of the container. If the container is the whole planet, it will spread itself out in an instant.
I think exploding tanks are not really an issue with hydrogen, at least from what I’ve been able to find out.
Electric vehicles are not the answer, they create waste and do not last long enough, so there is no resale market. Over the course of its lifetime, a gasoline powered car can generate thousands of dollars in taxes for the state from used car sales. Electric cars typically are sold with a multiple thousand dollar tax break, and they won’t be sold multiple times... Maybe hydrogen is the answer.
It is not. The only place in the usa that you can drive a hydrogen car in practice, is california,,and even then refueling stations are in pockets.
Infrastructure isnt there and capacity to extract hydrogen isn’t there either. Don’t know how fast it can be put in, but I’d say 2 decades. Without some kind of other nationwide or worldwide disaster/castastrophe factoring in.
California already has hydrogen fill stations around the LA basin. It was part of existing project buy the stations are spread out so you will likely need that 1000 mile tank. The hydrogen fill station equipment is a bit more finicky as in more maintenance than gas but still works. Hydrogen will require an extensive infrastructure similar to gasoline but would be great for large western states especially in colder regions were a electric cell battery car go to die.
I understand that we don’t have the infrastructure. That’s not what I meant when I said a ready-made replacement. I was talking about whether its performance and economics can match that of gasoline.
Can I get tank of hydrogen for $5/gallon and can I tow a 2,000lb trailer on my Ford F3500 that is full of tools and get nearly the same performance as my truck absent a trailer like I can with hydrocarbons. That’s what I meant.
If hydrogen is indeed ready to roll out, it can probably be rolled out quickly enough to replace the infrastructure that we have in place for gas and diesel.
““Serious question here. Is it reasonably possible to set up a hydrogen creating station at your home through electrolysis from water to create and store sufficient hydrogen to fuel your vehicle?”
Sure you could, but it takes a relative tremendous amount of energy to break water molecules apart, and then of course compress it. Not to mention, both hydrogen and oxygen are highly flammable, so leaks may be a wee bit dangerous.
Even Flux Capacitors!
I want battery cars to go the way of VHS tapes.
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