Posted on 11/25/2022 5:54:22 PM PST by MtnClimber
For decades, American leftists have been insisting that the way to beat America’s soaring health costs is through socialized medicine. England, Europe, and even Cuba, they assure us, are the models we should look to when it comes to bringing affordable healthcare to everything. However, healthcare in these countries isn’t looking so healthy lately. In England, for example, a 61-year-old man with a cancer diagnosis was just told that he must wait three years (not a typo) to be seen at a hospital.
When it comes to socialized medicine, there are myriad factors involved, all of which dovetail to say that socialized medicine is awful and that the free market—which we’ve never tried in modern America—is the way to go.
When England instituted socialized medicine in 1948, medicine was simple. The doctor had only a few weapons in his arsenal: physical examination, x-rays, biopsies (for diagnosis), newly discovered antibiotics, and fairly simple surgeries (no organ or joint replacements or “gender reassignments”). Under this system, the ability to see a doctor, something poor people couldn’t previously afford, wasn’t too costly.
The system wasn’t meant to deal with what eventually happened: medicine became more sophisticated. Today’s doctor’s examination is mostly a pathway to fancy tests that require costly equipment, followed by treatments with insanely expensive pharmaceutical supplies or sophisticated surgery. The outcomes are much, much better, as reflected in the greater longevity we had right up until COVID madness began. But the costs…wow!
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How is that free health care?
This is always the recommendation from politicos who have taxpayer funded private care. And, in the States, are not required to be controlled by Obama care.
I’ll bet there is no waitlist for euthanasia.
I have a brain tumor. Wait time for a neurosurgeon? 2 months.
Better than 3 years! But still stinks.
In Britain everyone has the right to be placed on a waiting list to see a cancer specialist or a heart surgeon. If you survive the wait you’ll get pretty good care.
And that’s the whole idea. In three years they will tell you “it’s too late now. Why didn’t you address this three years ago?”. Maybe one day the general population will decide to do what France did and pull out the chopping blocks and head baskets. Can’t think of a better way to put governments on notice and send the simple message “NO! We aren’t going to take this anymore!”. Yeah.. .like that will ever happen.
Come to any of Boston’s major hospitals and you won’t wait months.
Where are you? Is it an insurance thing? Because at our health system, you could get in next week.
61 with cancer 3 year wait. NHS is hoping he dies and save them a fortune. They are making cost/value judgements with people’s lives. This is what the rats have planned for us next election cycle.
I guess you just order your casket at that point.
“I’ll bet there is no waitlist for euthanasia.”
Denying care is effectively euthanasia.
Medicare Advantage plans are paving the way in the US for socialized medicine. In the US the government will pay health insurers a flat fee to provide care through HMO’s. The HMO’s and the insurers will maximize profits for the stockholders. To achieve the profit goals, insurers will ration care. Since government is not making the rationing decisions for the masses, Congress and the federal bureaucracy will ignore the cries of the people. After all they will still have their gold plated plans.
My 13 year old German Shepherd was losing weight, getting extremely weak, and having problems. Took her to the vet. Vet diagnosed her as having probably a stage 4 lymphoma.
A week later she was at a (I kid you not) dog oncologist. She got chemotherapy and a three drug protocol.
The day before Thanksgiving she got a clean bill of health, full remission, and my buddy is sitting here beside me right now... feeling back to her old self.
Cost me about 7500 bucks.
My American dog got -far- better treatment than a British “subject”.
You get what you pay for.
Well they do have private medicine there too.
So they would point to using those if you needed something quicker. And the fact you could have used private hcare if you really had wanted to.
I had to use a private practice dentist there. You can get decent care quickly if you pay for it.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Guess again.
> a cancer diagnosis meets a 3-year waitlist
You can die happily knowing the treatment would have been free if you had lived long enough.
New term: long euthanasia (aka socialist healthcare)
Perhaps age pushes it out further?
I know of a UK female with colon cancer (30 couple y/o) she started treatment straightaway.
She’s been at it for a year.
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