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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Ukraine lost the war a long time ago and is just dragging citizens through hardship, and flinging Ukrainian soldiers ( many of whom are Nazis), into the wood chipper while bragging that they are ‘winning’ to keep Biden and other nations pumping tax payer money into the Ukraine money laundering machinery and back to despots.

You are supporting the deep state ‘narrative’ by claiming a ‘key battle’ will make a difference in a war the Ukraine lost already.


15 posted on 11/25/2022 5:35:20 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

difference in a war the Ukraine lost already.

Nothing says losing like reclaiming 50% of territory lost....


17 posted on 11/25/2022 5:44:00 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: ransomnote
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20 posted on 11/25/2022 5:58:17 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: ransomnote; FreshPrince; Wayne07
ransomware "The Ukraine lost the war a long time ago and is just dragging citizens through hardship"

Map of ukraine on March 24th

Map of ukraine on November 24th

Looks like it is Russia that lost the war and is losing it steadily

Let's list the Russian failures ok?

  1. Initial goal - to overthrow Zelenskyy and install a pro-Russian puppet --> FAIL
    Zelensky had 20% approval rating before putin invaded. He was going to lose re-election in 2023 and probably be replaced with someone friendlier to Moscow. Instead Putin boosted his popularity by invading

    In addition Russia lost its elite paratrooopers, the VDV, in the failed battle of Hostomel airport and then lost hundreds of tanks due to sucky logistics

  2. Weaken NATO --> another putin FAIL
    NATO was moribund before Putin's invasion of Ukraine

    But after Putin invaded Ukraine
    1. Finland and Sweden applied to join
    2. NATO is more united than it has been in decades
    3. NATO countries are ramping up their military spends
    4. NATO countries are upgrading their weaponry - the decades old weapons they ave to Ukraine are smashing Russia's military, imagine what modern weaponry would do to Putin's army!?
    5. NATO's strategy is changed - they are putting more troops in the front-line Baltic states and Poland's east.


  3. Grab Donbass - partial failure
    Right now the Russians lost 25% of Kherson, including its capital city. the Ukrainians control 44% of Zaporizhia (and its capital city), 20% of Donetsk (and getting close to capturing ITS capital city of Donetsk) -- Russia controls 98% of Luhansk though. And all of these were supposedly incorporated into Russia - Russia isn't even able to control THOSE!
  4. Show Russia's weaponry to the world -- FAIL. Anyone looking at Russia's weapons is going to remark how pathetic they are. Expect weaponry sales (a big chunk of Russian exports that aren't mineral extracts) to fall

Total failure - if Russia had any sense it would have pulled out or retreateated back to the Donetsk People's republic and the Luhansk People's republic back in April

56 posted on 11/25/2022 11:17:54 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: ransomnote

Anyone who posts an article and THEN five successive posts with more propaganda and information (mis- or otherwise) is a zealot in my book. Nothing you can say to them matters - it’s like water off a duck’s back and they just keep on propagandizing.


80 posted on 11/26/2022 8:08:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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