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Grandfather of Oklahoma Teen Killed by Homeowner in Burglary Says AR-15 Made for ‘Unfair’ Fight
RNN ^ | November 18, 2022 | Jim Clayburn |

Posted on 11/21/2022 5:27:30 PM PST by george76

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To: george76

This happened several years ago


101 posted on 11/21/2022 6:54:33 PM PST by guido911
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To: nickcarraway

>>Where are the Freepers saying they know this is a black criminal?<<

Turns out one was; youngest was definitely white; one looked bi/multiracial.

She, the driver, Hispanic; other person in car unknown, as she won’t say, and the ‘teens’ can’t.

In addition to the knucks, they were also sporting at least one knife.

It was the homeowner’s son, seemingly home alone, who shot them.

She admits that it wasn’t her live-in boyfriend’s first home robbery; and that she “planned” it i.e. goaded them into it.

If Gramps sues, I hope the jury gives him the horse laugh, and awards the kid damages for his expended ammunition.


102 posted on 11/21/2022 6:55:00 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: Steely Tom

“No mention of the fact that it was three home invaders against one homeowner.”

in the video interview, the 4th gang member, the mastermind/get-away-driver admits that they were a serial burglary gang ... this burglary was NOT a one-off ...


103 posted on 11/21/2022 6:59:04 PM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: george76

Stuff that is important...

The break in took place in 2017.

Zachary Peters, 23, lived with his father and mother and was at home at the time of the break in, which took place in the afternoon. He shot the intruders with his AR-15.

Elizabeth Rodriguez, the getaway driver who planned the robbery, turned herself in. She was charged with three counts of first degree murder. She pled guilty to three second-degree murder charges and was sentenced to 45 years in prison with all but the first 32 years suspended, according to court minutes.

Earlier that morning, they had broken into the home’s detached garage and stolen electronic equipment and liquor. Now, in the mid-afternoon, they were back to ransack the main dwelling.

In an unusual twist to this story, none of the teens had police records. In each case, they had strayed from the teachings of loving parents. Max Cook, for instance lived with both parents in a traditional family setting. He played guitar, went to church, and graduated from high school. Yet, even though Rodriguez was five years his senior and had three young children, Max became enamored with the California native. He moved in with her and they began stealing for living.


104 posted on 11/21/2022 6:59:41 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: ApplegateRanch

Ammo, carpet cleaning, home repair....


105 posted on 11/21/2022 7:00:03 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: MHGinTN

Home owner NOT the complaining grandfather.


106 posted on 11/21/2022 7:04:27 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: george76

The headline minimize what the felons doing — this was not a burglary. Breaking into an occupied dwelling to steal while carrying a deadly weapon is Armed Robbery. Carrying brass knuckles shows a willingness to murder the occupant so they could rob him. If anything is “unfair” it is that the youths were raised amoral and stupid. Heck of a job, Grandpa.


107 posted on 11/21/2022 7:09:51 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: george76

Grampa needs to sit this one out.


108 posted on 11/21/2022 7:10:56 PM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: george76

The grandpa would have felt better if the homeowner wasted them with a 12 gauge instead. Right?

Or maybe a lever action 30-30.

Because that would be “more fair.”


109 posted on 11/21/2022 7:17:52 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: george76

Is there a rule book that says you have to fight fair with thugs invading your house? 3:1 odds isn’t enough? If this happened more often, the incidence of home invasion would drop precipitously.

Do it yourself toe-tags next to the mail box might help deliver the message.


110 posted on 11/21/2022 7:19:24 PM PST by RedElement
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To: george76

I think that’s the point.The homeowner has no idea what sort of firepower the criminals bring with them. The key is to bring out more than they can handle.


111 posted on 11/21/2022 7:20:02 PM PST by OrangeHoof (No food in the stores; fuel prices too high? Thank a liberal.)
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To: george76

Grampa Redfearn is a dumbass. Apple didn’t fall far from the tree.


112 posted on 11/21/2022 7:25:21 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: george76

Im sure glad he didnt shoot the neighbors...too


113 posted on 11/21/2022 7:34:03 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: george76

That’s kind of the whole point.


114 posted on 11/21/2022 7:36:02 PM PST by mykroar (what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how. - J0eStalin)
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That’s kind of the whole point.

And the hollow point too, when it comes down to it.

115 posted on 11/21/2022 7:40:01 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: george76

“There’s got to be a limit to that law, I mean he shot all three of them — there was no need for that,” he told KTUL.


Which one should he have shot? Why should he have stopped if the others were a threat?

“You can’t change history, but you can damn sure learn from it, and maybe some kids will learn from this.”


Maybe some will, and consider whether it is worth their life rather than just the victim;’s.


116 posted on 11/21/2022 7:41:38 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: george76

Like I said best be careful in this state and get ready to be shot if you mess with their house. People don’t even come in my back yard


117 posted on 11/21/2022 7:41:58 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: george76
Local story of 3 "youths" who would case houses for break-ins during the day. My kids were hit by them as well (nobody home). About 2 months later they hit another local house in the same development, thinking the owners were away as well (no car in the driveway). The homeowner and a friend were home and the owner confronted them. They "covered up" their crime by killing both elderly men, one still in his bed. No happy endings here Daddy, and I hardly call being murdered in your bed fair. THose 3 were caught and will be old men if they ever are freed.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

118 posted on 11/21/2022 7:44:01 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Wake up! The Philistines are upon you!)
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To: Chewbarkah

“ The headline minimize what the felons doing — this was not a burglary”

It was a home invasion which means blast then or die.

A single mom had to do the same thing in the same city not long ago with 13% kicked in her door after 1st burglary


119 posted on 11/21/2022 7:45:18 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: Secret Agent Man

late night surprise attack.

three against one.

the three get to plan and prepare.

the three get to coordinate their planning and their armament.

they get to choose their victim.

vs.

Old guy gets to grab what unoptimized tool is at hand and deal with someone else’s battlefield while outnumbered.

Which one is not fair?


120 posted on 11/21/2022 7:48:37 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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