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Did Rep. Kevin McCarthy really "win" the other day?
Yahoo! News ^ | Nov 21 | Yahoo! / Randfan

Posted on 11/21/2022 9:24:44 AM PST by RandFan

A source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that McCarthy prevailed in Republican House leadership elections on Tuesday, overcoming a challenge from hard-line conservative Representative Andy Biggs in a 188-31 vote by the caucus.

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I know he easily won that (GOP) vote but doesn't he need MORE than 118 votes to become Speaker of the House?

Can someone with more knowledge of the House confirm if the "hardliners" do not vote for him he will fail?

And then what happens?

1 posted on 11/21/2022 9:24:44 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

win?

or did they auto-correct ‘whine’?


2 posted on 11/21/2022 9:27:21 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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218 is needed. And I guess technically they could vote for anyone, including a DEM. This never happens with the DEMs (crossover talk), but there are some conservatives, many on FR, who would love to see it happen.


3 posted on 11/21/2022 9:27:54 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

It’s me who is questioning it not them.

I’m just wondering about whether the hardliners will get behind him & whether he needs more votes?


4 posted on 11/21/2022 9:28:57 AM PST by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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We’re no longer a republic.

Does that answer your question?


5 posted on 11/21/2022 9:28:59 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: CatOwner

Thank you for the quick reply!

I wonder what happens then if they dont get behind him.

They might or they might not.


6 posted on 11/21/2022 9:30:10 AM PST by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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Newsmax is running a banner saying “McCarthy has more work to do to become speaker”.....assuming that’s accurate it ain’t over yet.


7 posted on 11/21/2022 9:31:37 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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Interesting.

It just struck me as I was reading the article I posted.

188 (sorry typo in original post) is a little off what he needs then especially when the numbers are tight...


8 posted on 11/21/2022 9:33:52 AM PST by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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He’ll get the requisite number of votes. Right now, there’s a lot of deal making, trading and other considerations and compromises being made or “extracted” to obtain those votes…


9 posted on 11/21/2022 9:35:30 AM PST by Skybird
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Yes he will probably get them. Don’t you love politics....

But some might make this interesting especially if it’s so slim.

Stay tuned!


10 posted on 11/21/2022 9:36:55 AM PST by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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And he ain’t the best choice either


11 posted on 11/21/2022 9:37:00 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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I’m just wondering about whether the hardliners will get behind him & whether he needs more votes?
= = =

He has the thinnest of margins. Is making promises and deals.

Will be extorted by Pubs for their vote. Will be tempted (or blackmailed) by Dems for their vote.

If he can’t do ‘Pelosi’, he is in a world of hurt.

The Pubs have a chance, with committee picking, and subpoena power.

That is a little hopeful, but mostly for the entertainment value.

And that is how I value the congress right now; entertainment only.


12 posted on 11/21/2022 9:54:38 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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Why do we call the sane people “hardliners”?

It’s the RINOS and liberal Republicans that are the hardliners. They won’t ever go along with the true conservatives.


13 posted on 11/21/2022 9:57:07 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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The entire house votes for Majority Leader. Last session, Pelosi beat McCarthy 216-209.

If Republicans withhold votes from McCarthy, Hakeem Jeffries will be majority leader because dems aren’t stupid, and will stay united.


14 posted on 11/21/2022 9:57:08 AM PST by Wayne07
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Probably why he SAYS he will kick off 3 democrats from committees.

In reality he will fail in the end. He’ll say well we voted and I couldn’t help that some of the GOP voted with democrats to keep them.


15 posted on 11/21/2022 9:58:09 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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What happens then is Pelosi takes her 214 votes, picks off 4 RINOs, and remains Speaker.

There is no scenario - none - where a Republican other than McCarthy becomes Speaker.


16 posted on 11/21/2022 10:02:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (The Decline of America is a Choice )
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That is why he is out there making pronouncements, discussing his “policies”, etc...
Trying to create a reality on the ground.


17 posted on 11/21/2022 10:03:28 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Why do they take a vote for a Speaker that won’t be seated until the next Congressional Session takes place, with newly elected Republicans coming in? Republicans from the previous Congressional Session shouldn’t be choosing who the leader is in the next one. Since Kinzinger and Cheney won’t be there, are they allowed to vote in this behind-closed- doors straw poll?


18 posted on 11/21/2022 10:13:25 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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He got more than 118, he got 188 according to your post.

in a 188-31 vote by the caucus

19 posted on 11/21/2022 11:56:58 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Typo, yes.


20 posted on 11/21/2022 11:59:27 AM PST by RandFan (For some reason I'm interested in politics, particularly the U.S. Senate)
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