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Most UFOs are 'Chinese surveillance' drones and 'airborne clutter,' Pentagon officials reveal
Space.com ^ | 11/4/2022 | Brandon Specktor

Posted on 11/06/2022 10:01:09 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Intelligence agencies in the U.S. have spent the last few years analyzing footage of hundreds of recent UFO encounters, and they want the American people to know: It's still not aliens.

According to several U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) officials who spoke anonymously to The New York Times last week, many recent sightings of UFOs — or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), as the government prefers to call them — are likely just observations of foreign surveillance operations or airborne clutter, such as weather balloons.

Several UAP incidents have been officially identified as "relatively ordinary" Chinese surveillance drones, the anonymous officials said. China has previously stolen plans for advanced U.S. fighter planes, and is interested in how the U.S. trains its pilots, the DoD officials added.

Other UAP sightings recorded by military aircraft, which appear to show airborne objects moving in seemingly physics-defying ways, are likely the results of optical illusions. This includes the infamous video known as "GOFAST," which was recorded by a U.S. Navy aircraft and leaked to the media in 2018. (The video, along with two other leaked films of military encounters with UAPs, was eventually declassified by the government.)

While the object in the GOFAST video appears to be zooming over the water at incomprehensible speeds, this is just an optical illusion created by the angle of the recording relative to the water, the DoD officials told The Times. In reality, the object is moving at no more than 30 mph (48 km/h), the officials added.

A classified UAP report delivered to Congress this week by the DoD's intelligence agencies likely includes the findings reported by The Times. The new report adds new details to cases described in a document that officials publicly released in June 2021, describing 144 alleged UAP incidents reported by U.S. government personnel between 2004 and 2021.

The 2021 report acknowledged that, due to a lack of high-quality data, most alleged UAP encounters could not be conclusively explained. However, the report offered several blanket explanations for UAP in general, including "technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity," as well as "airborne clutter" such as birds and weather balloons.

Nowhere in the report were aliens or extraterrestrials mentioned — however, that did not stop alien conspiracy theories from arising, due in part to the government's general lack of transparency about UAP incidents.

Sue Gough, a DoD spokesperson, told The Times that the government was committed to sharing whatever UAP information it could without putting national security at risk. Government officials also tend to refrain from discussing UAP incidents publicly because there is simply not enough data to conclusively explain them, Gough added.

"In many cases, observed phenomena are classified as 'unidentified' simply because sensors were not able to collect enough information to make a positive attribution," Gough told The Times. "We are working to mitigate these shortfalls for the future and to ensure we have sufficient data for our analysis."

As the DoD continues its investigation into UAP sightings, NASA has also launched an independent UAP study team, which will operate from October 2022 to mid-2023. According to NASA, the team will focus on collecting and analyzing as much UAP data as possible, in order to develop new methods for identifying the unidentifiable objects in America's skies.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: asssmoke; coverup; moreliesanddeciet; ohgoodgawdsheesh; opticalillusion; russiarussiarussia; uap; ufo
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To: V_TWIN

Hey!! ;-D They changed disinformation gears without grinding the clutch.


21 posted on 11/06/2022 10:37:46 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The videos were showing nothing special but that didn't stop the government from making grandiose claims.

It doesn't stop the incessant conspiracy theorist from going ape over the information either. There are people that make a living in all aspects of the internet, over other people's gullibility. The UFO conspiracists are among them. To them it is borders on religion.

When we venture into technologies like IR optics and synthetic aperture, or for that matter any radars, there are glitches that show false or distorted echo. What would worry me more is the revelation that Chinese drones are freely conducting surveillance over our territory. I certainly hope something is being done about that.

22 posted on 11/06/2022 10:38:15 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Openurmind

I love the last line of this video, “It’s going to be up to Congress to get to the bottom of this mystery.” Yeah, a bunch of people with absolutely no technical background who find it baffling that the public mostly doesn’t like them are going to figure this out, that’s rich.


23 posted on 11/06/2022 10:38:55 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: GOPJ; BitWielder1

24 posted on 11/06/2022 10:42:50 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I know aviation and weather professionally and have yet to see a credible, visual UFO claim from the last half century that could possibly be explained by “clutter” like a weather balloon.

The word clutter does on rare occasion reasonably get used by air route traffic control types in reference to what sometimes appears on their monochromatic radar scopes, which almost never depict such things more than two-dimensionally.


25 posted on 11/06/2022 10:45:16 AM PST by rx
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

From personal experience... Once you see them... You can’ unsee them...


26 posted on 11/06/2022 10:49:31 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: pfflier

Yeah, that is one thing that the government was actually smart about. For any discussion on this, the UFO-groupies swarm and shout down anybody that talks sense. They’re the kind of people that go absolutely nuts when anything threatens their fantasy-life. They’re so entertained by the X-Files that they want DESPERATELY for it to be true. Anybody that threatens that narrative must be stopped at all costs. But don’t listen to this guy ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLyNFqxxuQ ), listen to somebody who has watched their X-Files DVD set 50 times since 2001 and thinks that Ancient Aliens is a legit documentary.


27 posted on 11/06/2022 10:50:07 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: rx

How about the clutter that you see in IR systems, which happens all the time? People who think these Navy FLIR videos are showing something amazing have never seen F-18s and other conventional aircraft in IR.


28 posted on 11/06/2022 10:52:28 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“Did Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army of China call Gen. Milley to give him a heads-up on all these spy drones? After all, Milley called Zuocheng, to let him know he’s give him a heads-up if the U.S. planned on attacking China.


29 posted on 11/06/2022 10:57:52 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: BitWielder1

They are replaying old “Unsolved Mysteries”On Netflix. The other night during my insomnia episode I watched a segment on a UFO sighting in Western Michigan by hundreds of people and even radar documentation. Funny thing though, not one individual bothered to use a camera or video camera to get a photo or film of the event. Not one. Wasn’t like many types of cameras and video equipment was readily available in the mid 90’s. 🧐🙁


30 posted on 11/06/2022 11:01:26 AM PST by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

So the DOD is saying that we let foreign drones get real close to nuclear sites, missile sites, sub bases, super carriers…. I think I would go with aliens before I would say the Chinese are running rampant and close to national security assets. But hey, whatever they think makes people feel safer.


31 posted on 11/06/2022 11:09:56 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Most UFOs are 'Chinese surveillance' drones and 'airborne clutter,' Pentagon officials reveal

When is the Communist Chinese military arriving in the U.S.? Do we have to take our shoes off? Will the Communist Chinese leaders allow their senile Sleepy Joe puppet Manchurian Candidate to permanently remain in the Oval Office or what? And what role will George Soros have in all of that? What about The Bills? Bill Clinton & Bill Gates? What about Hillary?

32 posted on 11/06/2022 11:10:36 AM PST by gw-ington (My Preferred Pronouns: senile, sleepy, puppet, laughing, hyena, stolen, election.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Is there normal IR video that can be viewed? I would like to view and compare them with the UFO videos.


33 posted on 11/06/2022 11:21:12 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

meaning that it somehow suspends the laws of fluid dynamics and aerodynamics. I’d like to hear how they’re pulling that off.

The CCP’s PLAN. thanks to our Walmart dollars. have mastered Zero Gee technology, that’s how. BTW, the whole invade Taiwan thing is just a feint - they are really going to invade the USA.


34 posted on 11/06/2022 11:26:18 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

If the Chinese actually had UFO tech you would be speaking Chinese today.


35 posted on 11/06/2022 11:28:11 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“It also takes advantage of the fact that most people have never seen F-18s and other conventional aircraft in IR.”

“Most people” are not in the equation and they certainly do not watch radar screens. These were highly trained military professionals who work with F-18s daily.

If they are Chinese, does that really comfort you?

What about all the UFOs spotted before drone technology? And I never dreamed they would bring up the weather balloon joke again. Are weather balloons still in use. Satellites and radar are the latest weather technology.


36 posted on 11/06/2022 11:33:48 AM PST by odawg
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The ones that maneuver at 5k mph and make right angle turns? Yeah, they’re honk drones, sure they are!


37 posted on 11/06/2022 11:36:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Disambiguator

Use shotguns against them? LOL


38 posted on 11/06/2022 11:43:42 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Never seen one, though I witnessed an F jet doing some amazing things at the JRB (old Carswell) in Ft.Worth on the tarmac between the base and Lockheed.

Won’t talk about the beings in the mountains of Wyoming. Ever.


39 posted on 11/06/2022 11:44:02 AM PST by waterhill (Resistrain)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“Most UFOs are ‘Chinese surveillance’ drones and ‘airborne clutter,’ Pentagon officials reveal”

We already knew that. What about the few that aren’t those things?


40 posted on 11/06/2022 11:50:51 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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