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US nuclear forces chief says Ukraine ‘just the warmup’ for larger crisis
UK Independent ^ | November 4, 2022 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 11/05/2022 4:40:10 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: FarCenter
This happens when the population expands, resources are used up, and social stress boils over into nationalistic militarism.

Also when not enough people are still alive who remember the last one.

41 posted on 11/05/2022 6:08:27 AM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: alloysteel
Once the savages have tasted blood and something that looks a little bit like “victory”, it is MUCH harder to contain the catastrophe that follows.

Exactly right - which is why not letting the Russians profit from their aggression is so critical. Because if they do, it'll only be a matter of time before they and the other savages start another war to try to gain more territory.

42 posted on 11/05/2022 6:09:47 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: C19fan

You’re gonna hafta answer to the Coca-Cola company.


43 posted on 11/05/2022 6:11:27 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: cranked; All

Well for Mitchell said she saw some conflation with the huge crowd of GI’s listening to her at Bragg with the films of the men marching through the streets of Paris, Berlin, Vienna, Buda Pest, Moscow and St Petersburg in August 1914 as she sang on stage at Bragg.

Yes, what greater image of pathos, sadness, unnecessary, tragic waste than World War 1 and now it seems to begin to hover in the air once more. This time with lots of girls in uniform, the US Army was more than 15% female when I retired in 2006. Lot more now to join the faces of the men never returning.


44 posted on 11/05/2022 6:16:20 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: JonPreston

Absolutely NONE of it.

There is no doubt in my mind that the US and NATO pushed Russia into this war. They want war. They need war. This totally could have been avoided. And no one ever talks about peace or ending this thing.

My genuine and very real fear is that with the US economy sliding into the tank, and with Europe’s economy crashing, the only thing left for Klaus, Gates, and Democrats everywhere is to plunge the world into war and possibly a nuclear winter.


45 posted on 11/05/2022 6:27:20 AM PDT by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: Obadiah; All

This would be a bigger ends-means mismatch than World War 1. Why would any rational, not saying virtuous even, person desire a great power war with nuclear armed combatants? Serious question. The ruling classes of Europe in 1914 really believed the war would be bloody but fast lasting six months at the maximum. Only three conflicts in the whole 19th century lasted more than two years, the American Civil War, the Taiping Revolution, and the War of the Triple Alliance against Paraguay. Two of those were internal conflicts and the other was a war between marginal states in Latin America.

We pretty much know what a great power war will be and have a pretty good idea of what crossing the nuclear threshold can lead to.


46 posted on 11/05/2022 7:01:37 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Obadiah
There is no doubt in my mind that the US and NATO pushed Russia into this war. They want war. They need war. This totally could have been avoided. And no one ever talks about peace or ending this thing.

100% Obadiah. Thanks for the energy and passion. Our voices are important if we are to stop this.

47 posted on 11/05/2022 7:10:17 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: C19fan

My God this topic about nuclear war is being brought up so often and casually ..?...The governments of the world are out of their ever lovin’ minds to even contemplate this avenue of warfare! I guess the outright horror and misery of conventional war is no longer a thrill for those sitting back ordering such destruction while sipping coffee looking at a monitor in the situation rooms ? God please smite these individuals who can do this!


48 posted on 11/05/2022 7:25:46 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: C19fan

We don’t need a direct war between the u.s. and russia.

Jeez. It needs to be said?


49 posted on 11/05/2022 7:28:06 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Who was Ashli Babbitt?)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, as long as you haven’t been introduced to the Covid, uh I mean FEV; you should be fine.


50 posted on 11/05/2022 7:34:47 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: robowombat
The ruling classes of Europe in 1914 really believed the war would be bloody but fast lasting six months at the maximum.

And that is exactly what they thought about the Korean War. Check the historical records. The war planning guys and even the combat troops were almost giddy going into the Korean War thinking it was going to be a quick walk in the park and everyone would be home in time for Christmas.

And this is what concerns me. They are beginning to bring discussion of war, nuclear war, into the everyday dialog, conditioning people for this horror.

Yeah, why would anyone go to war in the nuclear age with countries possessing nukes?

1) They did it with Russia and Ukraine.
2) People are conditioned to believe nobody will really use nukes.
3) People believe no one in their right mind would use nukes.

And, BANG, a "tactical" nuke is used. The genie is out of the bottle and all Hell will break loose. Markets and economies will collapse into fear. The world will be plunged into chaos and social mayhem as people panic and the rule of law will be almost non-existent. Looting and self-preservation will be the order of the day. Does China use this time of distraction and confusion to grab Tiawan? Then the world is plunged into a great darkness.

51 posted on 11/05/2022 8:09:44 AM PDT by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: C19fan
"The senior naval officer in charge of America’s nuclear triad says the current worldwide tensions sparked by Russia’s war against Ukraine the stolen 2020 presidential and congressional election.
52 posted on 11/05/2022 8:12:40 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: bert

…and you support senile Joe’s Ukie war? …and the corrupted little comedian Zelensky corruption? Zelensky refuses to negotiate, nothing but cries for war, war, and more war…..as Ukraine crumbles and goes dark, their people suffer.

Classic Biblical case of Evil destroying Evil, Biden, Zelensky, Putin. They will bury each other….The EU, and West are losing their grip, and all self inflicted.

When the Ukie grid hits 80 percent dark, ( now 45 percent dark) I suspect the masses will realize the West’s “down to the last Ukrainian “ and suicide agenda was a very dark road to go down.


53 posted on 11/05/2022 8:29:27 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

So very sad, yet so very accurate.


54 posted on 11/05/2022 8:30:42 AM PDT by Obadiah (Calamity Joe Biden)
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To: delta7

BINGO! You nailed it.


55 posted on 11/05/2022 8:33:42 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Obadiah

“There is no doubt in my mind that the US and NATO pushed Russia into this war. They want war. They need war. This totally could have been avoided.

And no one ever talks about peace or ending this thing”.

Right on!


56 posted on 11/05/2022 8:36:08 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: mythenjoseph

Excellent post!


57 posted on 11/05/2022 8:37:13 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Cathi

The West is going to look pretty stupid when they realize their cries for war resulted in the total destruction of Ukraine and crippling of the West. Zelensky shouldn’t have walked out of the March negotiations.


58 posted on 11/05/2022 8:37:54 AM PDT by delta7
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To: BlackbirdSST

If one is going to wait for the end rather have Ava Gardner at my side


59 posted on 11/05/2022 8:41:26 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: delta7
You do understand that in the view of the worshipers of George Soros and the Worshipers of Joe Biden The source of the Biden's family dirty money must be protected at all costs. The cost being the lives of every Ukrainian and American....... except theirs. And if there is anyway that they can arrange it the explosion of some nuclear weapons both in Russia and the United States will happen. The Neo Cons, Globalists, and One World Government advocates have married the worshipers of George Soros and Joe Biden and are presenting a United Front now.
60 posted on 11/05/2022 8:47:29 AM PDT by sport
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