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Motorcyclist who shot, killed Orange City librarian will not be charged, prosecutors say - UPDATE
WESH -TV2 ^ | 22 September 2022 | Staff

Posted on 11/02/2022 8:24:14 AM PDT by Red Badger

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41 posted on 11/02/2022 9:12:15 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Red Badger

Bunch of roads raging idiots chased her to stop her. Then shoot a pregnant woman you chased to her house. Congrats idiots, you can brag to your kids about your big manly shootout. Lord forbid you park down the street, watch at a distance, and wait for the cops.


42 posted on 11/02/2022 9:12:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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so this guy with several witnesses, apparently his pals, follow a woman all the way to her home and she runs into her house and brings out a gun...

she had every right to protect herself from this group....

its all his word and his buddies word and naturally they are going to support their friend....

this women did not shoot.....she was shot and killed....

karma....karma....I hope it comes quickly to this little gunslinger.....

I just don't see any justice in this at all....

they were on HER property....at HER house....there were many of them and one of her....

I hope the family gets a good civil attorney because the criminal justice system failed her badly....

43 posted on 11/02/2022 9:14:35 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

by whose acct did she “hit” him?....if it was all his buddies then this whole story stinks.


44 posted on 11/02/2022 9:15:29 AM PDT by cherry
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To: BenLurkin

Yes we do, but, most have Ghost Writers.


45 posted on 11/02/2022 9:16:53 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: sjmjax

It’s okay because they didn’t throw the book at him.


46 posted on 11/02/2022 9:22:06 AM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! šŸ˜)
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To: Red Badger

What a story. Obviously wrong to hit and run. If she intentionally hit the biker with her car add another felony charge. She’s obviously in some kind of emotional state and now add paranoia because people are following her home. She goes in and gets a gun to confront the people following her. Tragedy ensues.


47 posted on 11/02/2022 9:22:46 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know the full story here.
What was the original incident?
Why would you, along with others, follow a single woman to her home?
You have her license plate.


48 posted on 11/02/2022 9:24:19 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: DesertRhino

> Bunch of roads raging idiots chased her to stop her. Then shoot a pregnant woman you chased to her house. <

The woman was foolish to run out of her house with gun. She should have stayed inside, and called the cops. But your post brings needed balance to the incident. There are no good guys in this story.

Everyone involved provided lessons in what not to do.


49 posted on 11/02/2022 9:25:16 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Eagles6

IIRC, she hit the motorcyclist with her car then sped off................


50 posted on 11/02/2022 9:27:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
In Russia Florida, librarian gets silenced.
51 posted on 11/02/2022 9:29:02 AM PDT by SIDENET (Whatever they're threatening, the vaxx is worse...or they wouldn't be threatening you.)
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To: Codeflier

More detail in this story.
If true, the guy belongs behind bars.


52 posted on 11/02/2022 9:29:36 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Red Badger

Read the story linked in post #38.


53 posted on 11/02/2022 9:30:31 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Leaning Right

Yep. She shouldā€™ve blocked herself in the house and called the cops. A lot of these shootings are one too crazy emotionally charged people collide.


54 posted on 11/02/2022 9:32:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Red Badger

Lot of things wrong here. By persuing her, he escalated the confrontation, and negated the chanced to escape. By going onto her yard, she could have invoked the stand your ground rule.

He had witnesses, he could have gotten what he wanted just by taking her plate.


55 posted on 11/02/2022 9:47:44 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Ransomed

Agree.

Further, at least as far as Castle Doctrine in Florida goes, if an invader with a firearm turns tail and runs away, the property owner cannot pursue the perp and fire at him while he is in retreat.

Firing at a retreating perp is not self-defense. The perp no longer represents an imminent existential threat. He is retreating. Castle Doctrine also extends to your vehicle as well, as the courts have ruled.

The perp no longer posed a threat to the property owner in his Castle (motorcycle) as she was in retreat in her own vehicle and it would be illegal for him to pursue her. Additionally the motorcyclist put unknown parties at risk firing at the perp in or near the perp’s home not knowing who else was present if he shot into the home.

Not sure why the judge ruled this way. Maybe as a test case? This one will go up on appeal. Dollars to donuts, the lower court’s ruling will be vacated and reversed. It’s happened before.


56 posted on 11/02/2022 9:53:30 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Red Badger; BenLurkin; DesertRhino; cherry
Neither Morales, nor the motorcyclist have any previous local criminal history.

I wonder if the Police investigated the driving citation history of all those involved in the collision and pursuit.

By my experience, motorcyclists are significantly more aggressive and provocatory drivers that the general population, and even more so in a group.

Women can be intimidated and frightened by incidents like this to the point of fear for their lives, and make untrained unprofessional defensive decisions.

I also wonder if the Police tried to find any security video of the collision.

I think this case suffers from a lack of evidence.

Fair disclosure, I hold a driver's license with a motorcycle endorsement, I own and drive a motorcycle.

57 posted on 11/02/2022 10:02:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: SIDENET

Librarian FAFO


58 posted on 11/02/2022 10:04:47 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

That’s the way I am. Somebody gets mad at me for something, and I don’t know what it would be since I’m a 5 mph over the speed limit in the slow lane kinda guy, and decides to flip me off, I don’t follow and return the flip. I shrug my shoulders and if I see them slowing down ahead of me, ostensibly to continue the confrontation, I find the first turn to make and get outta there.

Let them have a bad day with someone else.


59 posted on 11/02/2022 10:09:03 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (q11)
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To: woweeitsme

Like Willie Nelson said, “you can’t hang a man for killing a woman who’s trying to steal his horse.”

The librarian chose poorly.


60 posted on 11/02/2022 10:19:59 AM PDT by oldvirginian (When I was a kid I wanted to be olderā€¦this is not what I expected)
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