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NYU Professor Maitland Jones Jr. fired for being too hard says colleges ‘coddle students’
nypost.com ^ | October 20, 2022 | Allie Griffin

Posted on 10/21/2022 8:25:43 AM PDT by lowbridge

An NYU chemistry professor who claimed he was fired after students complained that his class was too hard said colleges “coddle” students instead of helping them succeed with “tough love.”

Maitland Jones Jr. taught at the expensive Manhattan private school for 15 years before he was canned ahead of the fall semester after a student petition alleged that his organic chemistry class was too difficult to pass.

“Organic chemistry is a difficult and important course,” he wrote in an op-ed published in the Boston Globe Thursday.

“Those of us who teach it aim to produce critical thinkers, future diagnosticians, and scientists.”

The 84-year-old said he has witnessed a decline in student capacity in recent years as well as administrators bending to the wishes of students more often than not,

“Deans must learn to not coddle students for the sake of tuition and apply a little tough love,” Jones wrote. “They must join the community in times of conflict to generate those teachable moments.”

He said professors now fear teaching demanding material and assigning low grades to students who perform poorly because they worry they’ll face punishment.

“[Young professors’] entire careers are at the peril of complaining students and deans who seem willing to turn students into nothing more than tuition-paying clients,” Jones said.

The ex-teacher said the students must learn to accept failure and grow from their mistakes. He argued doing so is a vital life skill today’s students aren’t getting.

“Students need to develop the ability to take responsibility for failure,” he wrote. “If they continue to deflect blame, they will never grow… Failure should become a classic ‘teachable moment.'”

Jones, who previously taught at Princeton University, said he watched a decline in students’ attendance and participation in his class over the past couple of years.

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1 posted on 10/21/2022 8:25:43 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Organic Chemistry 1&2 w/ lab are weeder courses.
P Chem sucks too.

For EE:
Diff Eq., Digital Logic, and Microprocessors.


2 posted on 10/21/2022 8:29:30 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: lowbridge

Everyone gets a trophy reaches university level.


3 posted on 10/21/2022 8:31:24 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: lowbridge

The “weed out” course weeded out the Professor.


4 posted on 10/21/2022 8:40:01 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: lowbridge

It can’t be just about organic chemistry. What’s his political affiliation ?


5 posted on 10/21/2022 8:42:09 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: lowbridge

So, just give the Lyle snowflakes a participation degree and be done with it.


6 posted on 10/21/2022 8:42:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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To: Puppage

Little


7 posted on 10/21/2022 8:42:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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To: EEGator

Loved Organic Chemistry and Qualitative Organic Analysis. I agree with you on P Chem and also Analytical Chemistry. Too dry.


8 posted on 10/21/2022 8:44:20 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: lowbridge

9 posted on 10/21/2022 8:44:52 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: EEGator

I do agree, the courses you cited are the big stumbling blocks for people seeking those majors—however, as a 77 year old, I would not want to go back into the classroom, I would ask how well this professor was able to keep up with advances in O Chem — my best profs were not this old.

I can accept that maybe math courses are more stable?


10 posted on 10/21/2022 8:45:07 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: lowbridge

I took a Zoology course. We started out with over 100 students, but before long it was 10. Then it got fun. For real, it was a blast. I loved it.


11 posted on 10/21/2022 8:45:44 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I would absolutely think Math is far more stable.
Any advances in Mathematics would probably be in PhD level dissertations at elite level Universities.

I took College Algebra, Trig, Pre-Calc, Calc 1, Calc 2, Calc 3, Diff Eq, and Linear Algebra.

I would think nothing changed in these for a very long time.


12 posted on 10/21/2022 8:48:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I for got to post...I didn’t find Organic Chemistry “difficult”, but laborious. A ton of index cards and memorization.


13 posted on 10/21/2022 8:49:52 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: lowbridge

The adjustable quandary...

Increased throughput, brings in dollars based on the illusionary success metric.


14 posted on 10/21/2022 8:55:37 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: lowbridge

Breaking News. Upcoming, a generation of pussies. Good Luck America.


15 posted on 10/21/2022 8:56:54 AM PDT by seabeeson
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To: lowbridge

My freshman year roommate was pre-med. He too stumbled on Organic Chemistry. He also partied a little too much.

He made himself right, buckled down, and went back year 2 for Organic Chemistry, and passed. Now he’s an OB/GYN

Thanks to a prof, just like Prof. Maitland Jones Jr., who makes sure students are serious and committed.


16 posted on 10/21/2022 8:59:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: EEGator

Did you use the Kreyszig book ?


17 posted on 10/21/2022 9:02:07 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: lowbridge

Chemistry is a difficult subject? Who knew?


18 posted on 10/21/2022 9:04:23 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: libh8er

I don’t think so.


19 posted on 10/21/2022 9:07:34 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: lowbridge

College is a f’n joke these days. Especially at the (poison) Ivy schools.


20 posted on 10/21/2022 9:11:47 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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