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Putin’s War in Ukraine May Destroy Russia
wsj ^ | 20 oCT 2022 | Michael Khodarkovsky

Posted on 10/21/2022 7:31:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Western media for decades has hailed Vladimir Putin as a great strategist. But if the past eight months have proved one thing, it’s that this strategic wizard often achieves the opposite of his intentions.

...Mr. Putin should look to history. During World War I, Russian authorities tried to conscript Muslims from Central Asia. The result was a major uprising in summer 1916, which took months and tens of thousands of Russian troops to suppress. In the end, none of the Muslims were sent to battle—and, by withdrawing army units from the front to confront the internal uprising, Russia expedited its eventual defeat. Less than six months later, the czar and his government were forced to resign.

By sending poorly trained non-Russian men to Ukraine, Moscow may soon meet a similar fate. Centuries of pent-up bitterness and frustration over rule by Moscow may spill into a military confrontation and civil war. Given Russia’s current military defeats, this isn’t a distant prospect. If and when that happens, Russia will fall apart as the empire of the czars and Soviet Union did. It would be ironic if the man who wanted to revive the U.S.S.R. instead ushers in the twilight of Russia’s last empire.

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To: Wuli

And to reiterate a previous reply, much of Russia’s resources and pipelines are not within pur-sang Russia.


101 posted on 10/21/2022 10:15:31 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: SmokingJoe
Well, your original post just oozes with sympathy for Putin, so what else is one to conclude?

You excuse everything Putin and blame everything western. Thats not objective. Lots of "I think" this and "I do not believe" that, with no facts to back any of it up.

Some might call that 'propaganda'

102 posted on 10/21/2022 10:16:01 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44
So you support Putin by default?

I'd support Putin over the very woke, far left, anti Christian Zelensky any day, any time.
What is there to support about Zelensnky?

103 posted on 10/21/2022 10:17:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Magnum44

See # 103.


104 posted on 10/21/2022 10:18:35 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Putin’s strategic mistakes are going to occupy Russia for a long, long time, who knows what will remain in 10 or 20 years.


105 posted on 10/21/2022 10:20:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SmokingJoe

You prove my point in #96, all the non-sequitur aside.


106 posted on 10/21/2022 10:24:34 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SmokingJoe

—” Hitler after they had invaded all the way to Moscow.
Zelensky the clown? Russia will chew him up and spit him out.”

That may happen if Ukraine chooses to push the Russian army back to Moscow in the Russian winter.

Only a thousand miles or so.

Do not overlook the massive support provided to Russia at that time.
Maybe China will help them out? Out of Siberia is more likely.

Who do you think will support them?


107 posted on 10/21/2022 10:28:11 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Magnum44
Nope.
You prove my points.
You actually support Zelensky who shut down the big opposition parties, took over all the big media, is totally corrupt, and is as woke and deranged as they come, plus DEMENDED America attack Russians nuclear silos.
This guy is basically demanding America commit suicide.
108 posted on 10/21/2022 10:29:05 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

—”You mean the inevitable victory of Russia?”

Over what time frame?

Post your time line.


109 posted on 10/21/2022 10:29:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: SmokingJoe

ok, you are off your meds now. Take a pill, and a nap, you’ll feel better in the morning...


110 posted on 10/21/2022 10:30:27 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
That may happen if Ukraine chooses to push the Russian army back to Moscow in the Russian winter.

If Ukraine still exists.
Them tactical Russians nukes did not exist when Napoleon then Hitler invaded.

Do not overlook the massive support provided to Russia at that time.
Maybe China will help them out? Out of Siberia is more likely.

Do not forget the massive Russian nuclear arsenal today, the most powerful on the planet.

111 posted on 10/21/2022 10:33:33 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Kazan

—”The ruble is the top performing currency of the year. “

Tell us about all your great investments in Russia.

You are welcome to purchase all the rubles you can pay for in cash, but you can to sell them or convert to another currency.

Russian bank rates were passing 17% and dropped because they cannot sustain. Look at the rates near you and see how biden inspires the interest rates.


112 posted on 10/21/2022 10:36:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Magnum44

—”And they are so excited to be there”

They are excited!!!

But they will not be there for long.


113 posted on 10/21/2022 10:38:52 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: PGR88

__”If Trump had remained in office, this useless war in Ukraine would have never started. They needed him out to complete their decades of work”

No disagreement!

But that is a major cognitive disagreement from your many Putin-supporting posts.

How do you reconcile your two positions?


114 posted on 10/21/2022 10:43:21 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
But that is a major cognitive disagreement from your many Putin-supporting posts.

Stick your propaganda and loyalty-tests up your XXX

115 posted on 10/21/2022 10:53:22 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SmokingJoe

—”Do not forget the massive Russian nuclear arsenal today, the most powerful on the planet.”

Since you mostly trade on rumors...

The other day it was reported that Putin was rebuffed on his desire to use a nuclear weapon.


116 posted on 10/21/2022 10:53:34 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Since you mostly trade on rumors...

Russia having the most powerful nuclear arsenal on the planet is NOT a rumour. That IS FACT. Look it up.

The other day it was reported that Putin was rebuffed on his desire to use a nuclear weapon.

Now that IS a rumor if ever I saw one.
Chuckle.

117 posted on 10/21/2022 10:59:13 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: PGR88

—”Stick your propaganda and loyalty-tests up your XXX”

Looks like it is time for your nap and some warm milk.
Biden likes ice cream, might help you too.

Perhaps after your nap, you might answer the question:

“But that is a major cognitive disagreement from your many Putin-supporting posts.

How do you reconcile your two positions?

See#93 if you have already forgotten.


118 posted on 10/21/2022 11:00:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Russian FM spokeswoman Zakharova ridicules NATO nuclear exercises “Steadfast Noon”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKbW-1xno7Q

119 posted on 10/21/2022 11:14:21 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: MMusson

Peace will be made when Russia departs Ukraine. Unfortunately for Russia this will require the defeat of the Russian military.


120 posted on 10/21/2022 11:16:09 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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