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Putin’s War in Ukraine May Destroy Russia
wsj ^ | 20 oCT 2022 | Michael Khodarkovsky

Posted on 10/21/2022 7:31:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Western media for decades has hailed Vladimir Putin as a great strategist. But if the past eight months have proved one thing, it’s that this strategic wizard often achieves the opposite of his intentions.

...Mr. Putin should look to history. During World War I, Russian authorities tried to conscript Muslims from Central Asia. The result was a major uprising in summer 1916, which took months and tens of thousands of Russian troops to suppress. In the end, none of the Muslims were sent to battle—and, by withdrawing army units from the front to confront the internal uprising, Russia expedited its eventual defeat. Less than six months later, the czar and his government were forced to resign.

By sending poorly trained non-Russian men to Ukraine, Moscow may soon meet a similar fate. Centuries of pent-up bitterness and frustration over rule by Moscow may spill into a military confrontation and civil war. Given Russia’s current military defeats, this isn’t a distant prospect. If and when that happens, Russia will fall apart as the empire of the czars and Soviet Union did. It would be ironic if the man who wanted to revive the U.S.S.R. instead ushers in the twilight of Russia’s last empire.

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To: alexander_busek
Even if we accept your totally made up figures, that still leaves 90% of the young Russians still in Russia.
Russia took massive invasions from Napoleon and then Hitler and still won.
They are not very likely to be too worried by a very woke homo clown like Zelensky.
81 posted on 10/21/2022 9:34:12 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Cronos
Even if we accept all that, Russia as a country has existed far longer than America has.
And with the demonic, totally divisive Dementia Joe in power in America, no one knows how long America as a country will last.
82 posted on 10/21/2022 9:36:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe
Sure, but not on a Ukraine thread.


83 posted on 10/21/2022 9:37:17 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: cranked
[Putin Mobilizes Russian Economy for War]

"DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR?" - Joseph Goebbels, 1943

84 posted on 10/21/2022 9:39:13 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Who can say? Everything is spin and propaganda from both sides.


85 posted on 10/21/2022 9:40:34 AM PDT by x
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To: dforest

—”One thing for sure is that America is being ruined and that is what I care about.”

In the beginning, I did have some feelings for the Russian people and the unfortunate Grunts riding on top of armored vehicles, I was wounded in one such event on an APC.

Now, a wasted division of Russian troops is so sad.
The entire Russian federation is down the tubes, who cares.

Would be nice if Putin had an accident and was severely disabled, needing 24/7 assistance, and surviving for a very long time in pain and misery. Seeing his handiwork.


86 posted on 10/21/2022 9:43:39 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Magnum44
I'm right on topic when you bring images of Russians being arrested in your post # 73.
Worth pointing out Dementia Joe thew hundreds of Americans into jail for 18 months and counting, with no charges.
87 posted on 10/21/2022 9:43:41 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
it’s that this strategic wizard often achieves the opposite of his intentions.


88 posted on 10/21/2022 9:44:40 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: PLMerite
Looks and acts like Zelesnky to me.
89 posted on 10/21/2022 9:44:53 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe
Worth pointing out Dementia Joe thew hundreds of Americans into jail for 18 months and counting, with no charges.

Yes it is, and your response is 'support Putin?'

90 posted on 10/21/2022 9:47:14 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: cranked
Michael Khodarkovsky will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. And you should also believe his article today, too.

Don't wait up for the payment, though...     

91 posted on 10/21/2022 9:48:19 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Magnum44
I DON'T support Zelesnky in any way.
What is there to like about the guy?
92 posted on 10/21/2022 9:49:44 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
And you believe that would be so if Trump had remained in office?

If Trump had remained in office, this useless war in Ukraine would have never started. They needed him out to complete their decades of work

93 posted on 10/21/2022 9:51:49 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: McGruff

-”Who is Michael Khodarkovsky and how many wars has he predicted the outcome of successfully?”

And you never learned how to search on your computer?
Your masters do not allow internet access?
Or do you have difficulty getting a fork to your mouth and doing other simple tasks?

So sad and too bad about your disabilities.

So I will help:

Professor Khodarkovsky is a University of Chicago Ph.D. and has a B.A. from Kalmyk State University in Elista, Russia. At Loyola he teaches courses in Russian empire, comparative empires, colonialism, and Western civilization.

Because of your disabilities, you never learned about the relation of history and the future.

Too bad, so sad.


94 posted on 10/21/2022 9:53:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: SmokingJoe

“Looks and acts like Zelesnky to me.”

Cross the border of an independent nation with what passes for a modern Russian Operational Maneuver Group and head for the capital, one should expect a big fight.


95 posted on 10/21/2022 9:54:21 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: SmokingJoe
So you support Putin by default?

Thats like you saying you dont support your RINO candidate for office, so vote for the dem candidate. Good strategy...


96 posted on 10/21/2022 9:54:50 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

You got it the other way round.


97 posted on 10/21/2022 9:57:32 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: dfwgator

—”If history has taught us anything, it’s that one baddie will replace another.”

I tend to agree, more so in Russia.

BUT!
As noted above much of the natural resources are NOT held in pur-sang Russia. And the very long pipelines...

Having a major income is a force multiplier, while it lasts.


98 posted on 10/21/2022 10:01:06 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Deo volente

—”The battle for world supremacy a hundred years from now might feature China and the Muslims going at it. “

An old and well-educated friend convinced me after much dispute, that in the end, it would be US and Russia opposing the Chinese.
His main argument was we share race and religion.

I wish he were around to state his new position.


99 posted on 10/21/2022 10:07:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: libertylover

—”They don’t want to be ruled over by Moscow again either.”

An old rumor had it that NATO was needed most to keep Poland from attacking Russia!


100 posted on 10/21/2022 10:11:05 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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