Look at some of the posts on this thread. Astonishing.
Some people here think this is perfectly fine, that someone would give their word or sign a contract to work with an employer for 40 hours a week, and then give something less than that.
Or that corporations “deserve” to be screwed because they somehow mistreated their employees.
I am speechless.
On one hand, no moral foundation. On the other hand, people sound like dedicated Marxists.
Right on this very forum. Just wow.
I’m not justifying this behavior but a lot of people have lost respect for big companies. Myself included.
“Look at some of the posts on this thread. Astonishing.
Some people here think this is perfectly fine, that someone would give their word or sign a contract to work with an employer for 40 hours a week, and then give something less than that.
Or that corporations “deserve” to be screwed because they somehow mistreated their employees.
I am speechless.
On one hand, no moral foundation. On the other hand, people sound like dedicated Marxists.
Right on this very forum. Just wow.”
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I’m shocked as well. When you take a job and agree upon the hours of work each day, then that’s how many hours you should work for THAT employer and that employer alone.
To then use those hours to work for someone else for compensation is stealing from the employer (actually both employers). I can’t believe people do not see that. And then to say companies “deserve it”, just flabbergasts me. If you think a company is that bad, don’t work for them and don’t take their money.
It is jaw dropping that someone would justify that kind of fraud.
Of course this is a high level generalization. But I would argue, it's pretty accurate.
Fast forward to 2022. The poles have flipped on corporations and blue collar workers. You can hear the disgust dripping from some posters on FR when it comes to "corporations." Further, if I trolled DU, I bet there would be terabytes of vective aimed at anyone in a trade or on an assembly line.
To be fair, many corporations have earned the ire of normal folks, with wokeism and advertising and marketing that treats half of their possible customer base like a war criminal. And while in the 80s GE and IBM were titans and getting picketed by former hippies for acid rain etc, it's now big media which actively hates Deplorables. So, I get it.
In my opinion, this flipping-of-the-poles is why so many people on this thread are justifying workers double dipping. The evil corporations are screwing Deplorables, so if workers are screwing the company then it's all good.
Except it's not.
Regardless if you have a contract with your employer, there is a general compact that for $x a week you'll be on the clock from 8-6. If you cheat your employer out of your labor during that time frame, you're a fraud like Fauci, Pelosi, and every other loser who lives a life of lies.
In my line of work (I'm a Shepard...) you CAN work part time...BUT you need your boss' OK, AND you're not allowed to compete against your full time employer (e.g. I can't work for a competing sheparding firm or do freelance sheparding). Also, you need to demonstrate that your part time gig isn't interfering with your day job. It double-dipping is theft.
I think most corporations, in general, are net positive entities to the nation. They are part of the massive economic engine in America, a nation with 4% of the world's population that cranks out 24% of global GDP. They have awesome training programs, hire new workers, pay people really well, offer great benefits, and help customers and employees fulfill their manifest destiny. It works much better than socialism, and you can always quit and get another job elsewhere.
It used to be envious liberals who railed against folks in suits and ties or dresses. Ah, the good old days. Such is life.
I get the morality aspect, but you are going to have to explain the "dedicated Marxist" jab.
The simple fact is that employers unilaterally change the terms of employment to the employees detriment all the time.
So while I will give you that it's wrong it's not going to move my outrage meter at all. And if you are doing such a lousy job managing your employees that you can't tell they are working another job you are as much to blame as they are.