I think they mean during the same hours. So an 8 hour day is really 2-4 hour days.
Not if both companies think you are working 9 to 5 for them and they are paying you accordingly. That is theft.
I think they are referring to the time they are paying for.
IIRC engineers tend to be salary rather than hourly so as long as the get the assigned work done they may try to claim they were not engaged in “theft”.
But the natural counter to that, unless you are a real Wally, is engineering is not merely a 40 hour job.
At this point I couldn’t careless. These businesses have been raping our nation (well the leftist tech tyrants have been). So if employees decide to screw them over great. If they are working at a mom & pop and confirmed working there, then great. So sick of the tech tyrants. Our gov’t isn’t doing anything to stop it either so the people need to do what they can.
In the late 1990s, my company had some guy in the NY City area doing IT work, and six months into the episode...they found out he had a second job...same hours...just across the street. He ended up fired from both companies in the end.
Unless the company’s rules of employment specifically prohibit it (which it may) this looks like a slam dunk wrongful termination suit in the making
This is why it’s often better to work as a contractor instead of an employee.
So while our company thought they were "keeping everybody safe at home", there were some who went out and sold real estate during that time.
At first I was pissed they were double-dipping but then I came to realize they were simply doing what they had to do to make ends meet. I mean, other than retention business, how much net new selling can one do huddled at their house during a lockdown?
too many people cannot truly even work one full time job without taking time to answer texts or communications with kids spouse, looking up personal things online, social media. the last last few decades it’s just gotten worse and worse.
i thought it was bad in 1990’s when I worked for large shipping company and a highly key position employee who should have been fired repeatedly for falling asleep on job, attendance issues, theft of pencils etc, personal calls on work time (pre cell phones - actual calls to the company taking up a company line needed for other communications) was never fired.
“overemployment”??
Is that a new euphemisms for fraud? Which is what it is if you’re secretly working the same hours on two jobs.
No wonder there is so much resistance at going back to the office.
It depends on the nature of the job, but lot of people in midlevel cubicle rat world only have two or three hours of real work in a day. In government this is epidemic. These people are one of the core constituencies for work from home. People with brutal commutes I sympathize with. People who are basically drones, I don’t. If government weren’t run as a sheltered workshop for marginal employees, we could cut many agencies quite deeply.
I should acknowledge that I’ve been through the revolving door a couple of times. The diligent and competent federales are worth their weight in gold. They keep innumerable essential functions (that we mostly taken for granted) running smoothly. Then there are the others.
One effective tool to minimize this “dual job” type of activity is to require users to have a LinkedIn account.
LinkedIn is nothing more then a narcissistic mutual wank off service. It and Facebook should be dissolved.
About 15 years ago I had a developer working on a project. When I spoke with her, often times she seemed brain dead, took copious notes, but delivered excellent work. Turns out she was the ‘frontman’ for her husband, who did all the coding. Found out when I heard her on the phone making some last minute changes.
Total bs.
Workers do not have job security or loyalty from any company.
If its in the contrsct they signed thats one thing, if not, and they are doing both jobs without problems, its fine.
What if they were working another job not in the tech field?
Unless theres some kind of restriction in your contract, if you even have a contract, you can’t make momey any other way, people are working while they can make money. Economys going under for many. Many people work multiple jobs.
Before there were remote jobs, I knew “engineers” who had full time jobs, but didn’t even work half time. So holding two full time jobs is completely possible.
There also might be an issue with bennies, especially healthcare bennies.
And if the latter is involved and a double dipper gets caught lying about who covers what, he/she could be in for a world of financial hurt.
You are supposed to give a kegit 40 hours to your employee. You ain’t got time for a second job IF you’re truly doing your first
Every employment contract I ever signed specifically prohibited working another job