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Man claims he was paid $21,000 for 3D-printed guns at New York AG's buyback event in Utica
News Channel 2 WKTV ^ | 9-28-22 | Joleen Ferris

Posted on 10/04/2022 4:04:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

UTICA, N.Y. (UPDATED) -- A man who identified himself only as "Kem" saw people tweeting about using 3D printers to make guns for the sole purpose of selling them for big bucks at gun buyback programs, like the one the New York State Attorney General's Office held at the Utica Police Department last month. He got to work on a $200 3D printer he got for Christmas.

"I 3D-printed a bunch of lower receivers and frames for different kinds of firearms," said Kem.

Then, he drove six hours to Utica.

"And he sees the tote and says, 'how many firearms do you have?' And I said, '110,'" said Kem.

This began a haggling and negotiating session with Attorney General's Office staff that lasted all day long.

"And it ended with the guy and a lady from the budget office finally coming around with the 42 gift cards and counting them in front of me," said Kem. "$21,000 in $500 gift cards."

A few weeks ago, NEWSChannel 2 contacted the state Attorney General's Office, asking if they knew this might be happening. They didn't answer the question, responding only that the Utica gun buyback was a big success and that the program, in general, keeps New York families safe.

"I'm sure handing over $21,000 in gift cards to some punk kid after getting a bunch of plastic junk was a rousing success," laughed Kem. "Gun buybacks are a fantastic way of showing, number one, that your policies don't work, and, number 2, you're creating perverse demand. You're causing people to show up to these events, and, they don't actually reduce crime whatsoever."

Utica police referred all questions to the Attorney General's Office.

A statement sent from a spokesperson at the Attorney General's Office on Wednesday said:

“It’s shameful that this individual exploited a program that has successfully taken thousands of guns off the streets to protect our communities from gun violence. We have partnered with local police throughout the state to recover more than 3,500 guns, and one individual’s greedy behavior won’t tarnish our work to promote public safety. We have adjusted our policies to ensure that no one can exploit this program again for personal gain.”


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Excellent!
1 posted on 10/04/2022 4:04:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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“It’s shameful that this individual exploited a program that has successfully taken thousands of guns off the streets to protect our communities from gun violence. We have partnered with local police throughout the state to recover more than 3,500 guns, and one individual’s greedy behavior won’t tarnish our work to promote public safety. We have adjusted our policies to ensure that no one can exploit this program again for personal gain.”

Ha ha. The dude turned their foolish virtue signaling into his own personal profit. Most excellent!


2 posted on 10/04/2022 4:08:54 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Then, he drove six hours to Utica.”

Ahh, there went a good part of his margin.


3 posted on 10/04/2022 4:09:52 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The last paragraph is a total lie meant to make themselves feel good.

I participated in a gun sales event in Baltimore. The people standing in line all had similar rusted out pieces of garbage like I did. None of them were “crime guns” or anything like that. Just a bunch of old steel tubes that were worth far less than what the city was willing to pay. Many of us were discussing what firearms or ammo we were buying with the money.

Good on this guy for playing them for fools they are and sticking to his guns.


4 posted on 10/04/2022 4:11:37 PM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776rm.com. Fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: Flick Lives

If the lying scumbags in NY’s Office of AG gave a rat’s ass about “New York families being safe” they would take the repeat criminal offenders OFF THE STREETS instead of letting them go again time after time.


5 posted on 10/04/2022 4:13:06 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Perpetual liars )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I’d have just kept my mouth shut about it.


6 posted on 10/04/2022 4:21:28 PM PDT by nevadapatriot
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It’s shameful that this individual exploited a program that has successfully taken thousands of guns off the streets to protect our communities from gun violence.

Is that why crimes with firearms have been plummeting? /s

7 posted on 10/04/2022 4:24:14 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

…”We have partnered with local police throughout the state to recover more than 3,500 guns”…
Ahem, 3490 guns.


8 posted on 10/04/2022 4:26:39 PM PDT by daku
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To: Flick Lives

“The dude turned their foolish virtue signaling into his own personal profit. Most excellent!”

But those are taxpayer dollars, no?


9 posted on 10/04/2022 4:28:51 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: daku

Argh ! 3390 guns


10 posted on 10/04/2022 4:29:04 PM PDT by daku
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To: nevadapatriot

Indeed.


11 posted on 10/04/2022 4:30:57 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Someone in Houston did the same a while back. Guess Utica missed the memo huh?


12 posted on 10/04/2022 4:32:43 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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I would say he just made the ATF’s radar be time.


13 posted on 10/04/2022 4:33:41 PM PDT by Kadric
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To: daku

New math. Sheesh!


14 posted on 10/04/2022 4:34:24 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Government unhappy people smarter than them found a loophole.

Government unhappy citizen uses a program they design to the letter of the law, but not in the spirit of the law, ie wanting government to disarm them for a bribe.


15 posted on 10/04/2022 4:38:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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This is the second time this has happened and the ATF won’t let it go on indefinitely. Federal law allows you make firearms for your own use but they’re not transferrable unless you’ve serialized them and registered their serial numbers with the gummint.

Plus, the ATF reserves the right to designate you as a manufacturer based on how many guns you’re making and how you’re disposing of them. And they can do it retroactively. And under the terms of the 1968 GCA, manufacturers MUST serialize their firearms.

So they potentially could label this guy a manufacturer and come after him for failing to pay to register as a Type 7 Firearm Manufacturer, failing to pay the ATF’s fee for same, and for distributing unserialized firearms.

And there’s nothing he could do but bend over and grab ankle.


16 posted on 10/04/2022 4:44:03 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
program that has successfully taken thousands of guns off the streets to protect our communities from gun violence.

I'd like to know how many of the guns "bought 'back'" by this "program" were from criminals, or guns used in crime?

I'd like to know just how to make these sorts of claims!

Mark

17 posted on 10/04/2022 5:02:28 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Great business. If this whole confiscate for bucks thing becomes big, I’ll have to buy a printer. It’s an appropriate transfer of wealth … from libtards to gun toting, bible thumping, hardworking Americans.


18 posted on 10/04/2022 5:15:15 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist in )
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"...I'd like to know how many of the guns "bought 'back'" by this "program" were from criminals, or guns used in crime?..."

I suspect Philly is pretty representative.

Philly buyback events have yielded 1,000 guns in three years. None had been used in crimes.

Crims usually are pretty stoopid but maybe not stoopid enough to turn over a gun used in a crime to the Po-Po.

19 posted on 10/04/2022 5:15:39 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Let’s hear from the NY AG herself......What does she have to say? Doesn’t matter - it would be a lie anyway.


20 posted on 10/04/2022 5:20:03 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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