Posted on 10/03/2022 5:11:58 AM PDT by jacknhoo
For eight years, NATO has supported puppet rulers in Ukraine, funded attacks in the Donbass, repeatedly violated the Minsk agreements, supported the ban on speaking Russian in the Luhansk and Donetsk republics, and helped to destroy the democratic opposition and free media in Ukraine. The result was a one-party government, essentially owned and funded by the United States, and run by American operatives.
And no halftones and subtleties.
Yet, somehow, the United States managed to convince the population of its country and other Western countries that Russia is a “bad boy”, that it is out of control and must be stopped.
Despite all of the above, Russia remained steadfast and constantly sought to control the situation. However, she firmly said that it would be a “red line” if Ukraine became a nuclear power, becoming a direct threat to Moscow. This could not be allowed.
National Interest: Putin gave the Americans one last chanceRussia made it clear to the United States that de-escalation is possible only on its terms
Surely this was a sober warning to any sane country that the only thing that should not happen is Ukraine becoming a nuclear power. Eventually, once this Pandora’s box is opened, the last barrier to a possible nuclear war will be overcome.
For eight years, the West has egged Russia on again and again, but it has not taken the bait. Then, in February 2022, at the annual Munich Security Conference, the President of Ukraine announced his intention to make Ukraine a nuclear country.
Five days later, Russia entered Ukraine. The American propaganda arm immediately stepped into action, and for months, even as Ukraine consistently lost the war, at every turn the Western media resumed their claims that a war was unfolding; that Russia hesitates, and the heroes of Ukraine fight off the attacks of the Big Bear.
But all of the above is old news. Why, at this stage, should we return to this?
Well, the enduring significance of this is that NATO (or the US – they’re practically interchangeable at this point) have been reckless from the perspective of a nuclear conflict from the start.
Are they crazy? Or are they so stupid that they think they have some kind of “advantage” in a nuclear conflict? Or do they see it as a game of “single dominance” in which the only important issue is which side has more bragging rights?
We can only speculate as to the answer to this predicament. But putting that aside, we have to ask ourselves: a) what is the probability that the West will be so reckless that it actually pushes the button, and b) what will the result of this look like?
In the United States called on the White House to recognize the referendums in the DNR with one condition
What could partial mobilization mean for millions of Russians?
Zelensky said it would become impossible after the referendums
As for the first question, given that it is now becoming increasingly clear that the West is distorting the course of the war: Azov’s trained forces are used up, and replacements cannot be prepared quickly enough to take on experienced Russian troops. Washington will have to come up with another plan … and it must be something dramatic.
So far, the only card they haven’t played is the Nuclear Weapons card.
They began to claim that the Russians were either shelling the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant, which they held for some time, or causing these shelling and explosions. In fact, they are accused of blowing themselves up at the facility that they have long captured.
At the moment, not many listeners believe this explanation. So what’s left in their toolbox?
I have long felt that, ultimately, what the West could do would rely on the old favorite technique of attacking under a false flag. Create a narrative and video footage of a Russian attack on, say, Kyiv with a small nuclear warhead. Then announce that the warhead has been fired, killing hundreds of thousands. Then unleash a pre-arranged information blitz and invoke Article 5 justifying nuclear war.
It just might reverse the “tide of sympathy.” But it would also open a door that could not be closed again.
When the weak men are instead of the security forces, then there is a problem with the “clever men” “If you leave 50% of the employees in office, then the second half of them in the amount of 2.5 million people will demolish any army.” If a!
And as for the second question, “What would a nuclear war look like?” There are many studies out there, but the most revealing one I’m familiar with was from Princeton University.
The study begins with an accidental single launch in Eastern Europe and shows the size and number of nuclear warheads, as well as launch patterns.
It shows the trajectories and furthermore shows the diameters representing the degree of destruction of each missile.
Smaller nuclear weapons would cover all of Europe, leaving very little untouched there. This would then be replaced by larger transatlantic nuclear weapons, the most advanced Sarmat missiles. The Sarmat has the ability to elude missile defense systems. It travels at five times the speed of sound, weighs over 200 tons, and each has multiple separable warheads.
There is nothing like it in the West.
So what would be the result?
Well, every major US city would have multiple ICBMs targeted, each one big enough to destroy it. Most of the US would be littered with other ICBMs. The US would have been destroyed within hours. It is estimated that 90 million people would have been killed initially.
Those who were at the epicenter would evaporate. Those who were on the periphery of the explosion could have escaped if they got to the concrete shelter very quickly. They would then have to remain “sealed” in it for several weeks, if not longer, until most of the fallout had settled. It would become a gamble on the question of when it would be safe to leave the shelter.
Israel secretly sneaks through Poland to go to war with Russia. Moscow’s prompt response to this perfidy of Tel Aviv will very likely be shown to the Jewish state in Syria
The US northern border would be destroyed, taking with it Canadian border cities like Vancouver and Toronto. The southern border with Mexico would also disappear.
The next will be the movement of radioactive fallout.
As the video shows, there would be no hope for those who live in the immediate vicinity of the target, but as you can see, there are places outside the US that are not the target at all. Those places that do not have a strategic advantage will not be selected as targets. So, if you were in, say, Jamaica, you wouldn’t be affected, but just as importantly, the Caribbean weather system – the trade winds – would blow any rainfall away from you in the north, as would the Gulf Stream.
Better yet, the world is divided at the equator by two weather systems that don’t mix. Precipitation in the north is unlikely to spread south.
If you are in South America, there are very few likely targets. It is not known whether, say, Rio de Janeiro or Buenos Aires will become targets, but if not, then South America may be the best place in the Western Hemisphere.
In any case, things would be worse in Europe and the Middle East than in North America.
Finally, there is the issue of nuclear winter. No one can know if it will last for months or years and whether it will be local or global.
Nuclear war is not preordained, but the West is dangerously saber-rattling as if it is invincible and only others can be destroyed. This is completely false.
We cannot be sure that a nuclear war will be launched, but if it does, it will be quick. You will not have time to develop an escape plan . You should already be in a place that you consider as safe as possible.
* The Ukrainian battalion “Azov” was recognized as a terrorist organization by the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of 08/02/2022 . Activities in Russia are prohibited
Posted by Jeff Thomas Jeff Thomas is a British entrepreneur and freelance journalist.
Translation by Sergei Dukhanov.
Published with the permission of the publisher
I did not say it was wrong for Trump to want to fence the border. I was merely pointing out that even with 1,000 miles fenced, there was an even larger amount not fenced and it was a very long border. Stop trying to turn a statement of fact into a political statement. FReepers are not that stupid to fall for your Kremlin obfuscations. Or nuclear threats for that matter.
“I did not say it was wrong for Trump to want to fence the border.”
But you did use EXACTLY the same lame excuses as the NeverTrumpers, claiming it couldn’t be done.
Face it, once a NeverTrumper, always a NeverTrumper.
“Conspiracy theory” was a term popularized by the CIA to attack those who thought the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination.
Don’t let the Deep State colonize your mind.
I don’t know why you went after Trump so hard anyway as an absolute liar, I hadn’t even paid attention to the part of his statement about building the subs, the purpose of posting his quote was about how he would deal with Putin on the endless threats of nuking the United States.
What about his statement of how to deal with Putin’s nuclear threat against America set you off on such an anti-Trump hostility attack?
And why do you ping a whole list of people for every little insignificant post you make?
You have been pretty rabid in trying to steer this thread into an anti-Trump rant and trying to call in a mob to every post you make.
You seem to have zero interest in Trump’s strong statement on threatening Putin with our own nukes to get Putin to quit threatening us and the world and in fact, are trying to squelch it.
All while throwing around some pretty nasty, accusatory, and insulting posts, while also passing Christian judgment on other people
Quite a show.
Well you know if maybe one of these “theories” actually was proven I would have a different opinion. Occams razor tends to destroy most of them.
Again, when you cant accept the facts, create a conspiracy.
It all depends on what you call “proof”.
The key to whether the Deep State has colonized your mind—or not—is your default view of the world.
If you accept the mass media version of events as that default the Deep State owns you.
My default view is that the mass media is lying about everything—and the burden of proof is on them, not “conspiracy theorists”, to make their case.
Meanwhile in the real world, Ukraine keeps on conquering “Russian Territory”
Latest towns liberated:
Novopetrivka
Velyka Oleksandrivka
Davydiv Brid
Now lets go back to the way back machine for an oldie but goodie....
“Of course, FreshPrince of Bel-air, of course:
While Establishment Media Pushes Delusional Narrative on Ukraine, US Military Brass Now Recognizes The War is Lost”
https://sonar21.com/while-establishment-media-pushes-delusional-narrative-on-ukraine-us-military-brass-now-recognizes-the-war-is-lost/
“Russia Readies Knock Out Blow in Donbass...”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-78WysP5EQ
81 posted on 8/1/2022, 12:27:32 PM by cranked”
But why Canada?
Again Occams Razor usually does the trick
And some people have a “conspiracy theory”
default view of the world. I do not.
If you think the media is lying about everything then you have to concoct more and more outlandish alternative set of “facts”
aka as conspiracy theories to support your believe that everything is a lie.
I tend to believe until proven otherwise. Again, Occams razor. I also beleive the more extaordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence is needed.
As a computer programmer that is how I work. When I am trying to debug a program, you look for the most obvious reasons before the most arcane and of the wall reason.
The issue is who do you believe.
You get to decide that.
You and I believe different folks.
I not the type to carte blanch not believe/dibelieve everything that comes out of someones mouth. A conspiracy theorist tends to do that. Again it makes their theories necessarily more convoluted in order to maintain this stance.
If Biden says water is wet I dont automatically disblieve him because of who he is and what he stands for.
Very hard thing for some people to do.
You have some ideas in your head about what “conspiracy theorists” are.
Those ideas were planted there by the Mockingbird mass media.
My vote is California.
DC,followed by Philly or Chicago, is my first choice but it wasn’t an option.
Lets see...
Here is a conspiracy theory:
Biden/WEF/Soros want a nuclear war to wipe out 90% of the worlds population.
This loon idea was not planted by the media but by loons here.
Here is another:
Obama is setting up FEMA camps to imprison americans.
Loon idea. Never happened.
What is more interesting than saying “conspiracy theory” is to ask the hard question:
Does anyone gain from nuclear war?
Try to answer it without name calling.
Again—ask the right question.
Were plans implemented to imprison innocent Americans?
If you don’t ask the right questions you cannot get the right answers.
ping
Does anyone gain from nuclear war?
The answer is no.
But where you loons go off the reservations is to think that someone can gain and then you decide with 100% certainty with absoultely nothing to back it up that someone(s) are planning to do just that.....sorry thats a crazy walk I wont take.
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