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Electric cars are a complete and utter disaster that need to be propped up by government.
1 posted on 10/02/2022 11:01:33 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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How well did EV’s do when folks in Florida had to evacuate this past week?


2 posted on 10/02/2022 11:06:41 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist in )
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> *4 Days* to Fully Charge with Wall Outlet

Sounds expensive... and how much coal is burned for this process?


3 posted on 10/02/2022 11:08:49 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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A similar article by another writer was posted a couple hours ago. Here’s my comment:

I drove 3800 miles for work in September. 3816 to be exact. Most of that was pulling a trailer, which we’ll forget about for this.

Assuming the Hummer actually does get 300 miles per charge and that I used the 24 hour charger, 12.6 days would be spent charging. In other words, 40% of the time would be spent waiting for my battery to charge.

3800 is a little heavy for me but not by much.

EV mandates will force me to lose my current job. Great idea


4 posted on 10/02/2022 11:09:30 AM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776rm.com. Fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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Make sure to park outside. On the plus side, no body is gonna steal your catalytic converter.


5 posted on 10/02/2022 11:10:35 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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He’s using low quality hamster food and needs to grease the wheel.

That’s all it is


6 posted on 10/02/2022 11:11:49 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Considering that the purpose of an EV is to park it in one’s immaculate garage and then show it off to people (Virtue Signal), why should an owner care how long it takes to charge the battery?


7 posted on 10/02/2022 11:15:01 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 43 degrees)
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In before TeslaGator calls you a complete and utter liar.


10 posted on 10/02/2022 11:18:05 AM PDT by moovova
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Then you go 30 miles. Wonderful.


13 posted on 10/02/2022 11:23:36 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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How large will his electric bill be?


17 posted on 10/02/2022 11:25:14 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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How many amp-hours are required?


19 posted on 10/02/2022 11:27:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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How long to charge using your solar panels?


20 posted on 10/02/2022 11:32:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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The charging time is actually the hardest problem to solve with EV. You can make huge batteries, but you cannot charge them in reasonable time.
You do not realize, but pouring gas into tank is equivalent of about electrical 4MW power.
That’s equivalent of small power plant output!
Our, decent size house has 200A fuses on 240V. That’s only 48kW.
So if I shut down everything, I could theoretically deliver 100x less power in given time. My EV would then take 100x time to charge with equivalent energy that my gas car!
As far home installations, that’s about all one can get.
The best, fast charging stations deliver 380kW power, still 10x less than my gas hose! And that power is quite expensive!


24 posted on 10/02/2022 11:37:05 AM PDT by AZJeep
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EV's aren't for everyone. For it's worth, here are the rates of charge for my EV when charging at home.

Level I charging:
120V/6A outlet: 6 miles for every hour charged.

Level II charging:
240V 5kW: 15 miles/hr (how I usually charge it).
240V 8kW: 24 miles/hr
240V 9kW: 27 miles/hr (how I charge it if I need it to go from empty to full in 8 hours)

Part of being married and needing 2 cars anyway means you can have both an EV and an ICE to have the best of both worlds.

26 posted on 10/02/2022 11:39:32 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Also...

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4097655/posts


30 posted on 10/02/2022 11:45:36 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (The best things in life aren't things.)
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im retired, and don’t drive.....so, how much is the popcorn with extra butter and seasoning?


38 posted on 10/02/2022 12:20:21 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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$ days to charge on a regular outlet? I’m not too surprised. A “regular outlet” is a 15 Amp 120 V outlet. There is a reason electric stoves are powered by 50 Amp 240 V outlets. You want to boil that pot of water *today*.


39 posted on 10/02/2022 12:22:56 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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“Electric cars are a complete and utter disaster that need to be propped up by government.”

When it comes to full EVs (not hybrids) I agree with your statement. The wall-outlet thing is a cheap shot though. Wall outlets were not designed for that kind of charging in the first place.

However, this does make one wonder what will be required to charge box trucks, semis, farm machinery, tanks, self-propelled weapons, those gigantic trucks used at mines, bulldozers, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.


40 posted on 10/02/2022 12:24:12 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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What? You can’t use a solar panel to charge it at night?


45 posted on 10/02/2022 12:51:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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Let’s do the math. EV motor 90% efficient at converting electrons to mechanical work (this according to the EV fanboys). But where do the electrons come from? The battery which puts out 94% of the power that you put into it. But how do you put power into it? With a special EV charger 90% efficient. Where does the charger get its electrons? From the power grid (92% efficient) and where does the grid get its power? 65% From power fossil plants which are about 30% efficient at converting fossil fuel to electricity. From nuclear power plants (20% of the grid) 6% from hydro, Max of 9% from wind when it’s blowing and 2% from solar during bright sunny days.

Just looking at the fossil end of things the system is .9 x .94 x .9 x .92 x .3 efficient at extracting work from fossil fuel. That is 21%. A modern Otto cycle engine runs at about 30% efficiency.

But wait you say what about the wonderful magical “renewables”. When the wind is too low or too high windmills don’t work solar doesn’t work at night or when the sky is cloudy. So let’s say they’re available 1/3 of the time. Hydro and nuclear are base load generation and run flat out most of the time so in reality fossil has to make up 2/3 of the magic power or about 7% add this to the 65 to get 72% fossil and then divide 21% by .72 to get the final 29%. So magic electrical vehicles are 1% less efficient at burning fossil fuel than gas cars.

And THIS is going to save the planet?? Seems like a scam to limit our mobility more than anything else


46 posted on 10/02/2022 1:04:36 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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No thank you, I think I’ll keep my 2000 Hummer H3 that uses gas and gets 14/18 miles per gallon.


48 posted on 10/02/2022 1:30:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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