Posted on 09/30/2022 4:06:51 PM PDT by Cathi
22 min. podcast current state of the battle who blew up pipelines confirmed info that Ukraine and Russian generals talked about how to end the war expectation for expanded fighting in October and end of conflict by December
No it doesn’t. You offer no proof, just bombastic statement that even Baghdad Bob would find laughable.
Any proof for your nonsense about the invaded lands composing 95% of Ukrainian GDP?
Their own pre-war figures dispute your claims.
Where did you come up with the 95% figure?
based on data from the State Statistics Service of Ukraine, is that prior to the conflict there the Donbas could indeed have been described as an industrial heartland, but not exactly a breadbasket. In 2013—the last full year before Russia’s de-facto separation of parts of these two regions from Ukraine—Donetsk and Luhansk:
Jointly accounted for a quarter of Ukraine’s industrial production; Had the 2nd- and 9th-highest gross regional product, respectively, among Ukraine’s 27 constituent territories.
When it comes to agriculture, however, only the Donetsk region made it into the top 10 of Ukrainian regions with the greatest agricultural production.
Industrial production: In 2013 the Donetsk and Luhansk regions ranked No. 1 and 5, respectively, among Ukrainian constituent territories in terms of the value of their industrial production, jointly accounting for 25% of Ukraine’s total.
“Irretrievable fact: by the end of next week Russia most certainly will be on the way to add over 100,000 km2 and over 5 million people to the Federation.
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Russia already controls the territory that produces 95 percent of Ukrainian GDP. It has no need to press further west.” Donbass will be fully liberated and the next step is Odessa. Moscow is “in no hurry. The Russians are nothing if not methodical and deliberate. Ukrainian forces are bleeding to death in counterattack after counterattack. Why rush?”
“All the Young Dudes, Carry the (Russian) News”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/09/24/all-the-young-dudes-carry-the-russian-news/
“The Underachiever: Ukraine’s Economy Since 1991”
https://carnegieendowment.org/2012/03/09/underachiever-ukraine-s-economy-since-1991-pub-47451
You need to read your Carnegie link.
It doesn’t contain anything to contradict the regional GDP numbers I provided you that dispute the preposterous notion that the entire rest of Ukraine, with the largest cities, has only 5% of the GDP. In fact, the Carnegie link doesn’t have anything about regional growth, and no information more current than 2010. You’re peddling fiction and then hoping no one will check.
Or did you never check? Try it now, tell me where in that Carnegie link you find support for the idea that Luhansk and Donetsk regions create 95% of Ukrainian GDP.
You’ve been duped.
No, I don’t.
Plus, the 95% mention inherently infers that most of Ukraine’s industrial capacity and resources are located in the southern and eastern areas held by the Russians. Southern Ukraine was and is the most industrialized part of Ukraine.
“McGregor’s single claim to fame is that he refuses to support Ukraine.”
He might have done one other little thing.
Macgregor was operations officer of the 2nd Squadron, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment in the Gulf War. Abrams tanks and Bradleys. Battle of 73 Easting.
“The 2nd Squadron, 2nd ACR alone contributed 55 Iraqi tanks destroyed, 45 other armored vehicles, an equal number of trucks, hundreds of Iraqi infantry KIA, and 865 Iraqi soldiers taken prisoner”
At least do yourself the favor of not presenting it as proof of something it isn’t. That’s something liars do.
Plus, the 95% mention inherently infer…
Get out of here with your, “well, acktuchuallly…” nonsense. You were caught spreading a lie. Be honorable and stop spreading it. The alternative is to be a stooge wallowing in the fact he hasn’t read what he thinks is evidence of his point. You’ve been duped into believing (and repeating having never bothered to check for any evidence) an absurdity.
Trumps policy was to avoid war and make a deal
He did not demonize Putin like your globalists pals and mainstream media you know trust do
Consequences to stolen elections
Consequences you now trust
Here is Trump just yesterday on Ukraine
But he my guest
Trust media and globalists now
More war
Donbas is so worth risking a major conflict with a super power
MacGregors war record and service to his nation is I’m wagering superior to yours
And mine
I’ll ride with him
It should be noted Williams notes very loudly he’s always been a trump supporters note I said loudly lol
Given the forum hardly cache(s) much like the old days
It’s difficult to verify
Makes it easier for charlatans to skate
In the early days you could catch folks so easy
Oh screw off you can find my endless Trump supporting quotes including recent ones and on his Ukraine policy.
As for Douglas MacGregor’s war record I don’t think it exceeds Benedict Arnold or Gen McLellan, neither of whom I would follow.
You seriously think any jack off with a military record gets to silence the opinion of any other American citizen?
Any former military like MacGregor who goes on Russian state radio and calls for Germany to join Russia against America is a pos.
BTW he played that Tokyo Rose card on Tucker last night saying “Polls show the German people don’t support fighting Russia over Ukraine”. Standard traitorous propaganda.
I’ll stick with Trump’s policies.
Early days? I was here before you (relative) newbie.
Yes I know Jim Thompson could not have done it without you holding his hand in Fresno
😂😂😂
My son is one who’s going to fight go your stupid needless war
I doubt you’ve ever busted a grape with anything but your damn lips
So yes I think my opinion is valid plus unlike you I look for information everywhere and I don’t trust the main stream globalist media would you all of a sudden think is the damn gospel either you’re just stupid are you never wore much of a culture Warrior to begin with I don’t know what it is honestly
Oh your son was sent to Ukraine?
And I see how this works. Now the father of every soldier gets to decide national security policy.
I appreciate that you are concerned for your son’s safety.
I humbly suggest to you that a strong national defense against our enemies such as Russia, China, Iran, has the best chance of keeping your son out of harm’s way.
Whatever, never said I founded FR. Just that I was here hating Bill and Hillary Clinton a little before you.
Therefore you have no place pretending that gee maybe I’m really a liberal Democrat.
You certainly have MacGregor pegged.
He sits there and very cerebrally makes the most preposterous statements. It all amounts to, Russia is unstoppable so Germany leave NATO for Putin and the rest of us let Putin have whatever he wants.
And I’m sorry, I love Tucker on every other issue but on this subject he’s insane.
I just want to list a few of his more ridiculous statements, which he has said clearly no ambiguity:
1 America has become a corrupt authoritarian state BECAUSE Biden is copying the government model of Ukraine. Imagine this, it’s Ukraine that turned the democrats corrupt.
2 Tucker knows that Russia didn’t sabotage those pipelines (the day after it happened). Obviously he knows no such thing.
3 Not only do we want war with Russia and they’ll beat us; Tucker had on guests (including MacGregor) who not only said Biden wants a war with Iran, but also that IRAN WOULD DEFEAT THE UNITED STATES.
Sad to see Tucker and MacGregor fooling so many conservatives.
So what?
Therefore you have no place pretending that gee maybe I’m really a liberal Democrat.
You are taking Biden’s position here. It’s fair to question that on a conservative site, IMO.
McGregor is one helluva patriot with an incredible record.
He isn’t a warmonger and that pisses off the Ukranazis around here.
This post is a classic example of how the pro Russia/Putin Comrades here at FR are doing their best to convince those who are not or who prefer that Ukraine win are wrong.
For example it is seriously laughable to see a well identified Comrade accuse someone else of being a comrade. I have counted at least 6 easily identified Comrades posting and arguing here today. They post false “facts”, they try to make others feel wrong and stupid. They accuse people of being Soros supporters or anti-Trump, anything to discredit a non comrade before others who also might support Ukrqaine or might be persuaded to believe that Putin/Russia are not as vicious, depraved, or illegally acting as they really are. Good luck Comrades, hopefully God is paying attention.
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