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To: moovova

It stuns me, that the enviro extremists don’t see the big picture.

They say they want an electric car, so they can drive a pollution free car.

But they never consider that in many places, that car is recharged from electricity generated in “fossil fuel” power plants. And they never consider the mining of minerals needed to manufacture the batteries. And they never consider the toxic waste problems involved with disposing of old batteries.

It may seem obvious to us, but, electricity doesn’t come from an electric outlet in the wall. Electricity has to be generated somewhere. And in many places, fossil fuel power plants generate the electricity to power the electric car.


8 posted on 09/29/2022 8:10:50 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Perfect analogy. Just PERFECT.


10 posted on 09/29/2022 8:12:29 AM PDT by Freeper (My authority? I can read. )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Even the smarter ones only get one step further in the problem-solving department. They’ll say “well, that’s why we need to switch to green power generation, like wind and solar”.

But then they don’t want to address the fact that those solutions are not feasible for meeting societies’ power needs, especially if we increase them by getting rid of fossil fuels.

Only twice in all my years of arguing with leftists have I gotten any of them to admit that yes, they know wind and solar won’t be enough, and that we will probably need to build new nuclear plants to make up the difference. But if that small a percentage of them realize and will (under heavy cross examination) admit the problem, then they will never actually pursue the viable solution.

One of them actually argued that, they knew wind and solar were not enough, but they hoped that by getting rid of fossil fuels, and putting us in a position of relying on wind and solar, it would force us to innovate until wind and solar became efficient enough to meet our needs. He seriously thought this was a good plan, and he is an otherwise intelligent guy.


15 posted on 09/29/2022 8:18:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Dilbert San Diego; moovova

I’ve been posting on FR for a while now and sure enough:

A mandatory evacuation hits a gulf state or states and everybody with a battery car bugs out at approximately the same time.

Best case scenario there is the batteries were fully charged....at 300 miles out everybody is looking for a way to charge up.

If your fortunate enough to have been able to afford a tesla your gonna need at least 30 minutes to charge up IF you can find a tesla supercharger.....you and all your other tesla owner friends.

In the meantime a cat III+ hurricane is bearing down.

Since I do live on the Southeast coast, if I have to evacuate I suspect I’ll be seeing EVs scattered along the highway like so many discarded soda cans.

Not to mention it doesn’t take a full blown hurricane to knock out ELECTRICITY in a wide spread area.

I’m sure there will be no panic.

And there’s not gonna be a bunch of coal miners around to help push either.

Charging times Tesla model S

Supercharger 30 minutes

Tesla wall connector 9 hours

240 volt home 18 hours

Standard wall outlet 2-3 days


16 posted on 09/29/2022 8:19:23 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Liberals can not think that deep.
Wind has a tendency to die down.
Sun refuses to shine during night time.
So how you gonna charge your battery when green energy is missing?
Correct answer: Fossil fuels, nuclear or hydro.


31 posted on 09/29/2022 8:35:25 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only road to kep USA viable.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

true believers are morons

the push for EVs are not about globull warming

it is about control


43 posted on 09/29/2022 8:59:27 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Ditto for wind energy as the gigantic blades begin to deteriorate.. No way to recycle those either. Imagine a boneyard of monstrous dead windmills.

And, iirc, each windmill requires 50,000 gallons of oil while killing a slew of airborne fowl.

A small price to pay for .01° of cooling according to models. Projections, guesses, estimates.

I’m seeing lots of Teslas in Phoenix so the dangers of EVs hasn’t fully been realized yet. That realization should hit with the first battery replacement.


45 posted on 09/29/2022 9:10:50 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“It may seem obvious to us, but, electricity doesn’t come from an electric outlet in the wall. Electricity has to be generated somewhere. And in many places, fossil fuel power plants generate the electricity to power the electric car.”

I love my electric car (Hyundai Ioniq5) but I worry where the electricity is going to come from in the future.


47 posted on 09/29/2022 9:21:51 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as dangerous as national media.)
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