Posted on 09/27/2022 12:00:23 PM PDT by rktman
(I'm just the poster, not the tester)
A YouTuber with 1.4 million followers attempted to tow a 1930 Ford Model A truck with his brand new 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck, but it ended in “a complete and total disaster.” “If a truck towing 3,500 pounds can’t even go 100 miles — that is ridiculously stupid,” Tyler “Hoovie” Hoover says in his video. “This truck can’t do normal truck things. You would be stopping every hour to recharge, which would take about 45 minutes a pop, and that is absolutely not practical.”
“This is my new 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck,” YouTuber Tyler “Hoovie” Hoover said in a video in which he tests the electric truck’s towing capabilities, which resulted in “a complete and total disaster.”
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> How many do you know with their own oil refinery?
If you look at the historical development of the oil business, and the physics and mechanics of fuel vs electric cars (forget trucks) it’s easy to see how a US state could take care of itself with fuel powered vehicles, but not with electric vehicles, because they are a specialty toy for city dwellers with short commutes.
Fuel vehicles don’t have to use gasoline, though it could be made in a number of states with - and this is key - old EXISTING technology.
For electric vehicles to provide anything like the range, convenience, and independence of fuel vehicles, there have to be developments in batteries, electric generation, and transmission that have not happened. Societal development has to pick up more like how it was going in the fifties and not like the current BACKWARD degenerative trends.
Just going back some amount in the past (where we seem to be heading economically) would empower fuel powered vehicles.
A lot of areas could go back to basics that way, with current trends.
Yeah but 100 miles to the gallon... And no batteries.
You know as well as I do they will still have to drill for NG. Or just have no electricity at all. I wonder how all those BBqs are going to work out for CARB?
Electric Vehicles will be viable someday, I have zero doubt. It makes a lot of sense. We will find out someday, somehow, how to safely and inexpensively store electricity, and speed up the charging cycle. If someone said you could charge a car fully in 15 min, and have ready access to do so like you generally can when filling the tank of an ICE vehicle, and the car can go 400 miles, we simply would not be having these conversations.
We might be having conversations about how due to the dangers of spontaneous battery combustion, you shouldn’t park the car in your garage, ship them in seagoing vessels, or utilize underground parking lots, but you wouldn’t have to force them on people. People would generally buy them.
It will get there. It may be in two years. It may be in 100 years. But it will eventually be found in some way.
The concept of vehicles running on electricity is fine. The current state of technology is completely lacking.
It makes zero sense to sacrifice our economy and our freedom to accomodate this insanity.
Doubly so since the people pushing it are doing so on faulty premises-that we must do it to save the planet. That premise is absolute hogwash.
If they put the pipes into the ground to pull up oil, and there was no oil to come up, sure. I would be all for finding some other way to be able to drive a car and would be willing to accept a stunted alternative rather than no alternative at all.
But doing it because deranged Leftists scream we are all going to die as a result of climate change if we don’t makes me dig in my heels all the harder.
😂🤣🤣
“Now, if they could come up with a battery that weighed 1/10 of what current batteries do, and have five times the range...”
I think that thing is called “fuel”.
LOL, which is why WE don’t drive cars with diesels running electric motors. It could be done, no doubt.
> How many people do you know with a generator or solar panels? I know many.
Do you have any idea how many 100 watt panels you need in optimal sunlight to charge your car in, say, an hour? Do you have that many? Do you tow them? Do full sunlight, perfect health wealth and happiness, and Raquel Welch follow you everywhere?
How many do you need to charge it overnight? (trick question).
My first car was a 1930 Model A. It would certainly pull the F150 as far as it needed to go. But it held 10 gallons of gas so I’d have to carry a jerry can in the truck. It got 18 mpg which has yet to be improved on by much of anything. After I back-fit it with a ‘52 Merc flat head it might pull the F150 and one of his friends. The Model A pretty much defined what a modern car is. Everything newer is just gingerbread. And I could get in it with a hat on.
We are in agreement on this.
The Brainless Leftist drones think it is about saving the Earth.
The Evil Leftist Monsters know it is all about control.
LOL! I’m suing you for a new keyboard!
Are you trying to use a full sized locomotive system in comparison to a scaled down automobile or pickup sized system?
Knowing the realities and efficiency of a scaled down system using the same concept, that would be an unfair comparison to try and make.
The sheer amount of work being done with that 4,000 gallons of fuel is off the charts compared to either Electric or ICE autos and pickups.
That is like comparing a cruise ship to a jetski...
“I don’t think they’re cheap.
You really want a separate car for that?”
Hypothetically, if they were more affordable, and yes, for my wife who almost exclusively drive in town errands, while I have a truck for construction and firewood tasks.
Yep... the model T and A both got good mileage.
I pointed out the 2 notable factors in electric and gas vehicles.
What is ‘dreaming’ about that?
Learn to comprehend.
Or build induction chargers into the roads.🤔
“which is why WE don’t drive cars with diesels running electric motors. It could be done, no doubt.”
Sure it could... I did the math years and years ago. A 50Hp Diesel could produce 300 foot pounds of torque to the ground and get 75 miles to the gallon. And simple rule of thumb, less going in the front means less coming out the rear.
The all or nothing concept is just never going to work. This would be a great compromise that would work well!
A system capable of charging an EV in reasonable time is expensive.🙄
The F-Series trucks started in 1948 and were designated F-1 through F-8.
F-1 = 1/2-ton weight capacity (payload) in the bed.
F-2 = 3/4-ton
F-3 = 3/4 ton heavy duty
F-4 = 1-ton
F-5 = 1-1/2-ton
F-6 = 2-ton.
F-7 and F-8 were "Big Job" trucks like fire trucks etc.
These designations were replaced in 1953 by the 3-digit nomenclature we are familiar with today.
F-100 was the new 1/2-ton
F-250 replaced the F-2 and F-3
F-350 replaced the F-4
F-5 and F-6 became the F-500 and F-600. The F-7 and F-8 were replaced with F-700, F-750, and F-800. And the F-900 was introduced.
These designations would remain until 1975 when the F-150 was introduced as a heavy-half-ton. The F-100 model was retired in 1984.
These designations are purely academic today as the current F-150 has a payload capacity of just short of 2,000 lbs and can tow (theoretically) 14,000 lbs (powertrain dependent).
They don’t need to control the electricity,just the computer in your EV.🙄
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