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I have a question about the federal government and abortion

Posted on 09/14/2022 11:03:36 PM PDT by Jonty30

If abortion is legal in every state because every state has decide to make abortion legal, even if only for the health of the mother, doesn't that the feds the legal right to set the standards for abortion?

This is just a question of legality when I ask this question. I do not support abortion myself and I have learned the value of enjoying the company of a woman without the need to have sex with them.


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1 posted on 09/14/2022 11:03:36 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

The Supreme Court has just overturned Roe v Wade and issued a decision that leaves the question of abortion to the states not the Federal government. The Federal government cannot make abortion law. Abortion is not one of the enumerated powers of the federal govt. Hence it falls to the states.


2 posted on 09/14/2022 11:11:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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"I have learned the value of enjoying the company of a woman without the need to have sex with them".

I would certainly hope so. Sex encompasses so little time in a good monomagous relationship. Say, you have sex 3X a week for 20 minutes each time. That's an hour a week. 1 hour. What are you going to do the remaining 167 hours?

3 posted on 09/14/2022 11:15:39 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Not making abortion law, that is settled law I believe.
The federal government cannot Constitutionally make you purchases goods or services, Obamacare notwithstanding.

I’m talking about setting standards across the country for states that have decided to keep abortion legal, even if only for the health of the mother.

In the same way that cars all have to have seatbelts across the country. Does the federal government have the right to set standards on abortion?


4 posted on 09/14/2022 11:16:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Right Brother

Come to Freerepublic.


5 posted on 09/14/2022 11:16:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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Today while driving I heard Hannity on the radio when a RN called in. She worked in the abortion dept. She said a person was aborting a 16 week old baby - about one pound or so - and the baby was born alive and cried. The mother said what is that sound and the RN said that’s your baby. The mother was shocked and said “I didn’t realize it was a baby”.

WHAT? WHAT???

I could barely drive I was so upset by this ...the cruelty is unbearable.


6 posted on 09/14/2022 11:21:25 PM PDT by Aria
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the Federal government is restricted in its authority to the powers specifically enumerated in the constitution. All other powers fall to the State legislators and then to individual people. That’s why the language of the amendments to the constitution read in the language of ‘negative’ rights. It presumes the federal is restricted by the positive powers granted in the articles.

To respond directly to your question. The answer is no. The federal government has no role in the abortion issue. No constitutional authority. Even if they managed to enact an amendment it would be overturned because ultimately it creates a very ugly state religion.

That’s what I think anyway.


7 posted on 09/14/2022 11:21:49 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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That’s sad.

That sounds like New York, if it was so advanced.


8 posted on 09/14/2022 11:22:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Jonty30

😉


9 posted on 09/14/2022 11:29:10 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Aria

Hell is going to be full of a lot of women.


10 posted on 09/14/2022 11:30:27 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Aria

Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying:

“Whom shall I send? Who will go for Us?” And I said: “Here am I. Send me!” And He replied: “Go and tell this people, ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ Make the hearts of this people calloused; deafen their ears and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”

Then I asked: “How long, O Lord?” And He replied: “Until the cities lie ruined and without inhabitant, until the houses are left unoccupied and the land is desolate and ravaged, until the LORD has driven men far away and the land is utterly forsaken. And though a tenth remains in the land, it will be burned again. As the terebinth and oak leave stumps when felled, so the holy seed will be a stump in the land.”

Isaiah 6


11 posted on 09/14/2022 11:30:55 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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“I didn’t realize it was a baby.”

What did she think the child was, an orangutan? Why was she surprised a child four months along could cry? Never underestimate how little many women know about the development of the child in their womb. This is why Pro-Lifers have insisted on restrictions/laws explaining fetal development.

What will the psychological implications be for this woman, who heard the cry of her child she had murdered? The cold-hearted leftists don’t care.


12 posted on 09/14/2022 11:32:32 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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The catch-all for federal intervention usually comes down to Interstate Commerce, which would certainly apply if women from a No Abortion state travel to a Lawful Abortion state.

Also, if women were the victims of discrimination, that might also give the Feds some cause for regulation.

In general, though, the Supreme Court has stated the obvious - the right to have an abortion is not an enumerated federal power, and the states possess final authority on most questions.

13 posted on 09/14/2022 11:40:38 PM PDT by zeestephen
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The federal government has the power to raise armies.

Kinder -> Soldaten

Putin wants more babies born.


14 posted on 09/14/2022 11:46:26 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The proposed federal law would certainly be preceded by a congressional finding that any state law restricting abortion affects interstate commerce. This is how much of what the government does these days is justified under the constitution in the absence of any specific enumerated power. It all stems from the case of Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Wickard grew wheat on his land solely for personal consumption, and none of what he grew was sold or transferred to anyone off of his property. He sued Filburn, the Secretary of Agriculture, arguing that the Federal government lacked the constitutional authority to regulate how much wheat he could grow because none of it entered interstate commerce. The Supreme Court held for Filburn, reasoning that the wheat Wickard grew for his own needs reduced the likelihood he would buy wheat grown elsewhere, and thus had an indirect effect on interstate commerce. This case is long overdue for reversal, as it has been used to expand Federal authority far beyond anything imagined by the framers.
15 posted on 09/14/2022 11:48:40 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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Most abortions will be by chemicals.

The federal government has the power to regulate these chemicals since they are commodities and fall under the commerce clause.

Millions of Americans have been incarcerated for the possession and/or sale of chemicals.


16 posted on 09/14/2022 11:49:37 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Of course it can be a federal crime.


17 posted on 09/15/2022 12:28:36 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The federal government hasn’t set standards for any other health procedure

If you give them this then what’s next?

States have their own standards and rules for doctors and medical practice.


18 posted on 09/15/2022 12:32:52 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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How stupid does a person have to be to not know if one is pregnant they are caring a baby


19 posted on 09/15/2022 12:34:17 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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I’m simply asking as a point of law if they have the authority.

At least, it is to my understanding, they may very well have that authority. They can’t force states to legalize abortion. However, if the states have legalized it, they may have the authority to set standards.


20 posted on 09/15/2022 12:38:22 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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